Perhaps the dealer would be kind enough to send you a nice clear photo of the Trinnov measured response (both the direct and indirect measurements) before correction, as well as the predicted response after correction for the Aeris.
This seems reasonable and doable. If I were buying $1000 speakers I wouldn't request it. For $30k I for sure would.
Not easy to find/test them but there's a "cheap" one on Audiogon, might be your neighbor
If you end up choosing the Aeris system, how would in-home setup work? I have seen in more than one review that Legacy sends professionals to your home to deal with placement and initial EQ. Is that true, and if so, would you have to provide transportation? Would the speakers cost a bit less if you forego that service? (It's funny, I am asking all of these questions as if I am in the market, whereas - budget considerations aside - my space would be a terrible match for these behemoths. My ideal "compromise" is the KEF LS60, and that is more within my reach...)Sorry, don’t mean to be a “tease”
Great point, @aland. If MKR requests the results from both dealers, ideally they would have the same display settings. Perhaps a recommended setting for MKR to request (if he opts for this path) would be helpful.
I demoed the salon 2 in a home dealers living room that was well treated. The speakers were driven by the Mark Levenson 400 wpc monoblocks and totl pre/dac, I liked the speakers enough enough to buy them. At that time I was a little naïve thinking the hegel H360 that turned my salon 1's into rock stars would suffice for the salon 2, and to be fair I've had salon 2 owners reply to me saying their 100wpc components drive them full range to perfection. Since my H360 was still new and I wasn't comfortable dropping a truckload of money on the ML components it was more cost effective to replace the speakers. I've read suggestions that a solid bass line is critical to a great soundstage and while I don't have a diploma to validate that it would tie up my salon 2 problems in a pretty bow. I don't think I said anywhere the Blade was a better speaker than the salon 2, if so what I mean to say is the blades needed less power to deliver bass. Many here will tell us soundstage is unmeasurable thus completely subjective.@steve59 First, I would like to thank you for your very transparent, blunt, and honest opinions. They have been very helpful for me and I want to make sure you don’t think I am picking on you, certainly not the case at all, only trying to genuinely understand your opinions and preferences as it relates to my crazy little journey here.
As to your comments on the Salon 2 in regards to soundstage and low bass issues, this is the exact opposite of my experience. One of the best soundstages I have ever heard from any loudspeaker, and low frequency response that often times causes me to look for the hidden subwoofers. Simply stunning. As you say about the Blades, I get completely transported and lost in the music with the Salons. All that to say, I am becoming increasingly suspicious you had either an electronics mismatch or room issue (or both) with the Salons and you sadly never heard them at their best.
But it doesn’t matter, you found your nirvana with the Blades, and that is a wonderful thing
I have not heard them. I heard the original Whisper, predecessor of the V, long ago at a show, and heard Bill Duddleson explaine the principles by which the design limited horizontal dispersion. The sideways ribbon and the paired horizontal midranges (which will have destructive interferene off axis) are the tip-off that the V is also designed by those principles.
Thanks. Why would one design such a large loudspeaker to have narrow dispersion? Doesn’t make much sense to me.
Indeed my understanding is dealer is supposed to install and setup the Aeris, which is included in the cost (I believe it is actually required by Legacy of their dealer network)
Sorry, don’t mean to be a “tease”
Ten year thread, wow! That is your DIY design?Ha!
Yes, I get it - exactly why I’ve avoided DPS so far. Intended to start within a month after getting my most recent iteration up, and now here I am, approaching two years after that and no real motivation to start. Venturing into that world and new speakers might be a very deep rabbit hole.
Here’s an example: it was a DIY speaker project of considerable design, but much of the thread is premised on filter settings, software options, etc.
My point being, just count the thread’s pages and glance at the date of the first post. Must rank in the internet’s Top 10 of longest single-person-driven threads ever!
The making of: The Two Towers (a 25 driver Full Range line array)
After riding along on a few different line array threads I figured this project deserved it's own thread. I wanted to get new speakers for my living room for a while but could not quite find something I liked. The speakers I have right now are just too big to use in a proper setup. In a domestic...www.diyaudio.com
Anyway, I’m indeed about 45 min from a Legacy dealer. Actually about 30-45 min from most premier speaker brand dealers. Big city showroom density can be fun, but I don’t get around them much anymore, since nowadays the flip side of that fun would be intentionally wasting dealers’ time.
That's one of the systems I'm considering as (one of my) retirement projects. I believe @mitchco heard it and was impressed, but could be mistaken.
To enhance the ratio of direct to reflected sound. But I'm skeptical that the V's design would accomplish this is in a well controlled way.
Ah, got it, makes sense. But why are you skeptical?
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