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YesThose gold ones?
YesThose gold ones?
Were you aware of this when you bought them?I own some MoFi CD's. They were all analog on tape until they got digitized for CD.
Yes. Some of them are a bit valuable these days. Over a hundred bucks.Were you aware of this when you bought them?
I kinda get that, conceptually. I mean if it’s getting converted to digital anyway…. And that is where I started. One signal chain for analog, one for digital, at least until the amp.Well, admittedly I'm not totally consistent on this "keepin' it real" analog records thing.
One reason I spin records is that I find the sound is generally a bit different from my turntable rig vs my digital, and I enjoy it. It doesn't seem to matter if
there was digital somewhere in the recording or mastering chain, the vinyl versions still tend to sound more like vinyl than the digital. I put it down, likely, to all the kludges of re-mastering for vinyl, putting it down in grooves, and scraping it back off with a rock. So even a digital master gets somewhat bastardized by the process So I find the sound quality I hear from any record is never predicted by whether it came from a fully analog process or not.
Some records from analog masters suck, so do some digital. And visa versa.
But when it comes to how I treat my stereo, I keep my digital and turntable separate. That is, I don't care to digitize my turntable/vinyl signal. I know that I could in all likelihood digitize it in a way that is sonically transparent and keep the vinyl "sound," but I guess it's ultimately more of a conceptual thing that gives me some pleasure. I'm doing digital source when I want, analog when I want.
As a friend of mine who plays strictly vinyl in his main rig (and toils to keep vinyl up to snuff) says:
"Once you've digitized your vinyl, admit it, you've given up."
Most of the time I run it through DSP now, so my vinyl playback is digitized, but it still sounds like vinyl.
Sorry I was only joking. Referring to the ‘issue’ at hand i.e. the digitization step. Should have included a smiley. Will show myself out.Yes.
The source for this topic is a troll on one of those endless Steve Hoffman Forums topic (dozens of pages of baloney). The original video is some guy spouting rumors from unattributed sources, and torturing the English language (watch it you can stand it and you will understand what I mean).I got sucked into this rabbit hole on Youtube, and I can't stop laughing.
Basically it's coming out that MOFI has been using a digital step in their remastering since at least 2015, while all these analog "audiophile" snobs have been paying $130 per remastered, reissued LP thinking they're getting the pure, undefiled analog magic, and talking these reissues up as proof of their delusions. Now they're getting the rug pulled out from under.
A bit of a rundown here:
i mean a guy went to mofi to interview them and they admitted that they used a 11.2 DSD recorderThe source for this topic is a troll on one of those endless Steve Hoffman Forums topic (dozens of pages of baloney). The original video is some guy spouting rumors from unattributed sources, and torturing the English language (watch it you can stand it and you will understand what I mean).
I pulled out a MoFi Gain2 LP, which specifically states was mastered on a Studer A80 to the cutting head. The A80, of course, is an analog reel to reel tape deck.
But don't take my word on this. Here are links to a presentation (in two parts) by MFSL engineers Shawn Britton & Rob LoVerde on the processes used at Mobile Fidelity for both analog LPs (Gain2 and One Step) and SACD/CDs. Notice in part 1, Shawn Britton states that the Gain 2 LP system has a 100% analog chain, and that they have a separate analog room for LPs, and two digital rooms for SACD/CD.
For the SACDsi mean a guy went to mofi to interview them and they admitted that they used a 11.2 DSD recorder
You are clearly not up to speed with this. It's confirmed that they are using a digital step for the vinyl releases. It came direct from them (as much as they tried to dance around it).The source for this topic is a troll on one of those endless Steve Hoffman Forums topic (dozens of pages of baloney). The original video is some guy spouting rumors from unattributed sources, and torturing the English language (watch it you can stand it and you will understand what I mean).
I pulled out a MoFi Gain2 LP, which specifically states was mastered on a Studer A80 to the cutting head. The A80, of course, is an analog reel to reel tape deck.
But don't take my word on this. Here are links to a presentation (in two parts) by MFSL engineers Shawn Britton & Rob LoVerde on the processes used at Mobile Fidelity for both analog LPs (Gain2 and One Step) and SACD/CDs. Notice in part 1, Shawn Britton states that the Gain 2 LP system has a 100% analog chain, and that they have a separate analog room for LPs, and two digital rooms for SACD/CD.
New interview from yesterday confirms it all:The source for this topic is a troll on one of those endless Steve Hoffman Forums topic (dozens of pages of baloney). The original video is some guy spouting rumors from unattributed sources, and torturing the English language (watch it you can stand it and you will understand what I mean).
That’s what makes Blondie’s Heart of Glass on LP so good.hmm always thought the mofi LPs had a rather glassy midrange
I must confess to buying a number of Gold CDs from MoFi back in the day for albums I played over and over. Probably the same Aretha album you mention as it’s one of my favorites. May God and my wallet forgive me.I remember a MoFi CD I bought ages ago. "I Never Loved A Man the Way I Loved You" Aretha Franklin. One channel was -6db compared to the other. Haven't been interested in MoFi product since.
Just as bad in its own way, the MoFi Magical Mystery Tour LP that used the Capitol mastering of side two, the one with fake stereo instead of the George Martin stereo mix found on the German LP of MMT. Good vinyl, terrible mastering on that one.I must confess to buying a number of Gold CDs from MoFi back in the day for albums I played over and over. Probably the same Aretha album you mention as it’s one of my favorites. May God and my wallet forgive me.