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I'm curious @Pearljam5000, when you say these recordings sound better than anything else, what are you comparing them to?
To a lesser extent, nor between vinyl for that matter given individual differences in turntables/carts/phono sections and the actual record pressing.Just a note of warning, my friend Ian says you can't compare the DR readings (TT meter anyway) of vinyl to CD...
Why you can’t measure vinyl with the TT Meter
Almost to anything elseI'm curious @Pearljam5000, when you say these recordings sound better than anything else, what are you comparing them to?
Almost to anything else
His albums sound amazing even on crappy 5$ computer speakers.
Take "Scream" or "Jam" for example , the bass is amazing (and also everything else).
These i also likeHa, ok. Maybe a better way to get at what I'm interested in would be to ask: What else sounds as good or almost as good in your opinion?
You might be a bit biased by your affinity for MJ's music ...
These i also like
I don't like boring audiophile music albums, i like real music that happens to also be recorded well.
Billie Eilish also sounds great.
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Is there a "best sounding albums" thread or something?
It still sound great though, as did the mp3 version they released first when they didn't have a record deal, possibly there best sounding record.
These i also like
I don't like boring audiophile music albums, i like real music that happens to also be recorded well.
Compression is also a production technique, the same with heavily distorted mixes of e.g. japanese psychedelia, where DR3 is a design decision.
Compression is also a production technique, the same with heavily distorted mixes of e.g. japanese psychedelia, where DR3 is a design decision.
Audiophile production is nonsense in itself, to be honest. Just one way of producing and neither one is correct.
Mj sounds like dog balls (joke) compared to todays best stuff....you just have to find them....try skazi - power of god, genesis - shakti or hoff ensemble - polarity for example........then put Mj back...
Is there a "best sounding albums" thread or something?
Yeah, it's some other genesis i guessWow, Phil Collins has really taken a left turn with his band.
Exactly, and it's the intersection of those choices with the music that makes it work. MJ's production decisions may not work as well in other contexts.That's interesting. The production, mixing and mastering on each of these albums is very different IMO.
@tuga already pointed out the big difference in DNR between In Rainbows and early-mid career MJ. Also Aphex Twin's Syro is a low-DNR album (CD version, anyway). So I don't think it's DNR that accounts for your taste here.
Recordings can also use quite a lot of compression on individual tracks, while avoiding large amounts of mastering compression (especially limiting), and still maintain a healthy DNR. A lot of MJ's 80s-90s albums tend to fall into this category IMO.
Right you are.Compression is also a production technique, the same with heavily distorted mixes of e.g. japanese psychedelia, where DR3 is a design decision.
It's a shame" OK Computer" sounds bad(the original and remastered version)Right you are.
Bob Ludwig, mastering engineer for the ages, mastered 'In Rainbows' and actually commented directly about this topic during a presentation:
(transcription below from this site)
“This is a very loud record, but it was designed to be that way. This is a record where every distortion, just like Beck Morning Phase, every distortion you hear on there has been carefully thought about. The Beck Morning Phase record, we had done clean mixes of some of those songs. And then when we came out with it, some stereophile people thought it must be from an mp3 because of this and that.
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Every Radiohead record, we just keep working on it until Nigel’s happy. It’s funny because - I don’t think it’s telling things out of school - some of these records sound nothing like the mix. You’ll be surprised at what some of the mixes sound like, but they’re all malleable. What I ended up with is what he was imagining. So sometimes these records go quickly. Sometimes they take a very long time, it’s very interesting how it goes. But it’s never put out until he’s like, 'That’s it.'"