What's the best version of fleetwood macs rumours album?

[Thomas savage]

hi,

I have a recent remaster but the vocal is gutless and thin, half the album sounds crap but the other half is ok'ish.

I don't like the eq either , they have done weird things to the top end.

What's the best cd version to get?

Strangely the extra disc with a live performance and another with studio rarities are ok.

 

[RayDunzl]

I have:

Fleetwood Mac Rumours
Warner Bros 3012-2
sku 7559-27313-2 4

Maybe this one: http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/3936

Out of: http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=fleetwood+mac&album=rumours

So I put it on, since I haven't listened to it in this rotation, and it sounds fine to me.

Looking at the listings, I did ok...

Looking at the frequency response and levels, it's not too hot, it's not severely rolled off in the bass, it has less than "natural" roll off in the treble, so that might offend some ears.

Here's the left and right peak RTA coming off the CD player for the first tune, Second Hand News:

 

[Thomas savage]

I have one of those 2013 jobs, it's crap.

Oh, it's the 35th anniversary edition.. Or the worse one lol

 

[RayDunzl]

I have one of those 2013 jobs, it's crap.

Yeah, but are you listening to it in your car while doing donuts?

 

[Thomas savage]

Yeah, but are you listening to it in your car while doing donuts?

When I am in the car doing donuts I just listen to the engine and enjoy the burning rubber...

 

[Thomas savage]

Just bought this one..,,

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/3936

Thanks ray

 

[ceedee]

I think the Sanyo Japan edition is the best, but I've tweaked it with some EQ and brought the levels up with some normalization. That CD does sound a lot like the original LP — and I think both could be improved.

The 2013 CD is fine for the car. Unfortunately, there is no "good" CD mastering of this album. I have a feeling that the two early CD variants (the Sanyo Japan and the West German Target) were made from two different copy tapes. A search of the Steve Hoffman forums will uncover tons of threads. I don't believe anything Steve himself says, but the forum is a good resource on the best masters of a given title.

 

[fas42]

Just to confirm what Ray said, I have the 3010-2 version, from West Germany, and it's always come over extremely well - in fact, this is a top notch show off disk; dynamics, tone, guts - a goody ...

 

[Sal1950]

Yeah, but are you listening to it in your car while doing donuts?

More like he was eating donuts. LOL

 

[Thomas savage]

More like he was eating donuts. LOL

Not in the wagon! Heaven forbid!

 

[Thomas savage]

Just to confirm what Ray said, I have the 3010-2 version, from West Germany, and it's always come over extremely well - in fact, this is a top notch show off disk; dynamics, tone, guts - a goody ...

Thanks m.. Frank

 

[Sal1950]

This post made me realize I didn't have one myself
Grabbed this off ebay just now, looks to be the good one

 

[Thomas savage]

This post made me realize I didn't have one myself
Grabbed this off ebay just now, looks to be the good one

Ah, I have 03010-2

It's far better than the 2013 remaster I had but for one area.. Bass.

There is non.

Shame

 

[RayDunzl]

It's far better than the 2013 remaster I had but for one area.. Bass.

There is non.

The kick drum obscures the detail of the notes in the 40Hz area, but I wouldn't say there is none.

Left/right RTA, no EQ, from disc, several tracks

 

[Thomas savage]

Well it's rather lacking in weight imo, but no doubt it's been traded off for another advantage. Voices sound.. Well like voices unlike my 2013 copy that sounds thin and empty in the vocal.

As it turns out your copy is possibly not the same as mine.
Mines 3010-2

 

[Mivera]

I have 4 versions including 1 in DSD 64. Hands down the best is the HDtracks 24/96 version.

In WAV of course to avoid the FLAC conversion.

http://www.hdtracks.com/rumours

I'll also add that Tidal has the 16/44.1 version of the same mastering for those living in 2016.

 

[Thomas savage]

This is my idea of a kick drum..,

 

[RayDunzl]

As it turns out your copy is possibly not the same as mine.
Mines 3010-2

See post #2

 

[RayDunzl]

For comparison, here is something with "no bass" - although there is some low energy present from bumping and plucking. The Modern Mandolin Quartet, with mandolin, mandola, and mandocello, corresponding to violin, viola, and cello. Recorded to a Studer 1/2" two track.

 

[Mivera]