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What you need to know about the virus in China "2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)"

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Exactly.

Yesterday, I heard part of the press conference in the US with Dr. Fauci talking about HCQ. He made it clear that as an infectious disease researcher, he has certain standards regarding drug effectiveness that depends on a drug being verified through research. And doctors doing treatment have a different assessment to make given the circumstances of working with patients. And he talked about how doctors tried various existing drugs during the initial HIV epidemic.

In other words, HCQ is not the treatment he can certify. But it's the medical treatment that doctors in hospitals have to try to stop the disease, and he was not discouraging their assessment to use it.

Research vs practice

Doctors and Nurses aint aligned with our CDC/health department/govt either lol
 

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If the translation is contextually accurate, then all the more I don't trust this guy. He talks like he'll make best pals with Trump.

hmm ... The "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then it's a duck" is unique in his approach to the Covid-19 threat ... he sees it as a threat to his self-interest - not to people ... :facepalm:
 
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https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...21/coronavirus-hong-kong-records-44-new-cases

Below are the highlights, more in the story.

Coronavirus: Hong Kong records 44 new cases including 20-month-old child
  • Local tally is now at 317, with 29 new imported cases involving travellers arriving from Europe, Canada and the United States
  • Numbers come a day after city leader announced a raft of measures to contain spread
Twenty-nine of the newly confirmed patients had a history of travel to countries including 10 from England, and some from Canada, the United States and European nations such as France, Germany and the Netherlands.

It also emerged that a nurse in Yan Chai Hospital in Tsuen Wan had travelled to Turkey with her father, who has tested preliminary positive for Covid-19. Tests results were pending and the nurse was asymptomatic and had been quarantined

Mount Kelly international school, which had earlier arranged a tour to Switzerland, recorded at least two new cases, bringing the total to six including two staff and their close contacts.

Two more people who visited Canada and Bolivia on a tour were also confirmed with the infection, taking the total number of cases in the group to seven.

On local cases, the youngest confirmed case was a 20-month-old girl. The child was among a group who attended a wedding on March 14 in Discovery Bay. The toddler’s parents and the groom were infected earlier. There have now been eight confirmed cases involving the wedding group.

Four cases involved people who had been to the entertainment hubs of Lan Kwai Fong and SoHo in Central, including a band member who performed in several bars.

Chuang reiterated that there was no proof Lan Kwai Fong was a particularly risky area that warranted a complete shutdown.
“It’s not about a particular place,” she said. “If one place is closed, people will go to another place, it’s about a change in attitude, and we all need to reduce social interaction.”
 

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I had no idea that both Berkeley and you were that old! It must have been really weird to see all those pioneer prospectors invading your lands after nearly 800 years of peace and tranquility. ;)

LOL - Decade error corrected.

That date error hints at a new meaning for the demographic term "millennial". With my recent trend towards losing mobility and walking with a cane, I sometimes feel that old!

Peace and tranquility indeed! Being somewhat familiar with the history of native Americans in California, they included some of the most peaceful and contented tribes of humans known to academics, but were totally decimated by the Type A personality Europeans who brought death and destruction to them under the guise of religion and "civilization". And now, another "unintended consequence" of "civilization" brings the coronavirus pandemic to the human species.
 

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These charts are from a "letter to the editor" to the New England Journal of Medicine, Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1, which I assume that is not peer reviewed.

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Macron amenazó a Johnson con cerrar fronteras si no actuaba contra la pandemia, según "Libération"
[Spanish] https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2020/03/22/5e7760e7fc6c8356468b4592.html

Macron threatened Johnson with closing borders if he did not act against the pandemic, according to "Libération"
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2020/03/22/5e7760e7fc6c8356468b4592.html

[ French President Emmanuel Macron threatened British Prime Minister Boris Johnson with closing the border if he did not take firm action against the coronavirus, the daily 'Libération' reports, leaking the content of a call that the Elysee refused on Sunday to be confirmed.

"We did not comment on this rumor," said sources in the French Presidency.

'Libération' said on Saturday that Macron called Johson on Friday morning to warn him that if he did not take any steps to stop the evolution of the pandemic in his territory, France would have no choice but to refuse the entry of any person from the United Kingdom. .

"We clearly had to threaten him so that he could finally move," admit sources from the Elysee quoted by the French newspaper, according to which France on Friday night had everything ready to carry out its threat.

That same day, however, Johnson called for all bars, restaurants, cinemas, theaters and gyms to be closed to combat the virus, and this Saturday he acknowledged that the UK's COVID-19 epidemic was "accelerating."

The latest official figures in that country indicate that there are 5,018 confirmed cases and 233 deaths. In France, the number of deceased rises to 562, and that of declared cases to 14,459, of which 1,525 are serious.

Before the conversation between the two leaders, the French Prime Minister, Édouard Philippe , had already advanced the possibility of a border closure to protect the French. "It is obvious that if states like the United Kingdom do not take measures, it would be difficult for us to accept their citizens in our territory," he said last Tuesday, the same day that the confinement, which lasted 15 days, entered into force in France. ]
 

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Very interesting, a lot of graphs!

Las curvas del coronavirus en 50 países: así ha saltado desde Asia a Europa y Latinoamérica
[Spanish] https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020/03/21/actualidad/1584819543_395549.html

Coronavirus curves in 50 countries: this is how it has jumped from Asia to Europe and Latin America
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020/03/21/actualidad/1584819543_395549.html

[ How to read the graph? The thick line shows the confirmed cases and the thin line shows the deceased, from the day they exceeded 100 cases. In green we indicate the countries where cases take more than 20 days to duplicate, in yellow those that take between 10 and 20, and in red the worst: where cases double in less than 10 days. ]

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The video is by an unknown (no bio) British doctor who does not reveal his background, education, profession and experience, and it is mostly about the known benefits of vitamin D. The video's contents seem to be based on a 1917 Harvard Gazette report on paper that was published that same year in the venerable weekly BMJ (formerly British Medical Journal). Although interesting, it is not about a cure or treatment for COVID-19, but rather general respiratory system health. Maintaining good respiratory health - and good health in general - is a good thing, and can help one resist infections of all kinds.

The bottom line is that having "normal" levels of Vitamin D in your body is good, and is something that can help to resist respiratory infections, possibly including COVID-19. If you are deficient, supplements may help. But the last line (bolded) below indicates that it is not worth trying to mega-dose one's way into preventing COVID-19.

Below is a summary of the study's findings as published in The Harvard Gazette:

The Harvard Gazette:

A new global collaborative study has confirmed that vitamin D supplementation can help protect against acute respiratory infections. The study, a participant data meta-analysis of 25 randomized controlled trials including more than 11,000 participants, has been published online in The BMJ.

“Most people understand that vitamin D is critical for bone and muscle health,” said Carlos Camargo of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH), the study’s senior author. “Our analysis has also found that it helps the body fight acute respiratory infection, which is responsible for millions of deaths globally each year.”

Several observational studies, which track participants over time without assigning a specific treatment, have associated low vitamin D levels with greater susceptibility to acute respiratory infections. A number of clinical trials have been conducted to investigate the protective ability of vitamin D supplementation, but while some found a protective effect, others did not. Meta-analyses of these trials, which aggregate data from several studies that may have different designs or participant qualifications, also had conflicting results...

The investigators found that daily or weekly supplementation had the greatest benefit for individuals with the most significant vitamin D deficiency (blood levels below 10 mg/dl) — cutting their risk of respiratory infection in half — and that all participants experienced some beneficial effects from regular vitamin D supplementation. Administering occasional high doses of vitamin D did not produce significant benefits.
 

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Sunlight is very important to synthesize vitamin D. Spain and Italy have a very good climate in general and it has been of little use :(

The most effective has been not having nearby an international airport with a direct connection to Wuhan.

Hang in there Maty... If everyone was being as conscientious as you are, this whole thing would be over a lot faster.
 

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There's a lot of interest in this in the US since states that close restaurants are still allowing food takeout. Quite a comprehensive discussion:
Food Safety and Coronavirus: A Comprehensive Guide

I will personally stick to freshly cooked foods if I do get takeout. A pizza should have less exposure than a sushi roll or a salad, and I imagine the virus might have trouble surviving on food that is fresh out of the oven (thinking about how often I've burned my mouth on such).

In related news, California relaxed it's restrictions on takeout this week to allow alcohol takeout as well: https://la.eater.com/2020/3/20/2118...ivery-coronavirus-california-shelter-in-place

I get the benefits of having takeout food available, although we could certainly debate whether the risks merit it given that it enables lax social distancing. But takeout drinks?
 

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Sunlight is very important to synthesize vitamin D. Spain and Italy have a very good climate in general and it has been of little use :(

The most effective has been not having nearby an international airport with a direct connection to Wuhan.

We'll see. The #1 international destination for Wuhan travelers just prior to the shutdown was Bangkok.
 

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That is a superb video that shows the difference between two capitalist democracies, with one big, glaring difference - Taiwan has a single-payer national health insurance plan (LINK) - and was totally prepared for this pandemic.

As long as the U.S. has a dysfunctional health care infrastructure, that leaves huge numbers of its citizens uninsured or underinsured, it will continue to be susceptible to serious consequences due to pandemics in the future.
 
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