Scientific verifiable link please? ...With data support from authorities on the matter.
Interesting set of statistics.
The coronavirus appears to address the SSI ponzi scheme and unfunded pensions plans. In short, it sucks to be an old, male smoker.
Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths
I guess the worry is because of the potential for exponential growth, and social and economic disruption. As for the mortality rate, that is an almost complete unknown, of course, precisely because it is a ratio between a known number (fatalities) and an unknown number (people infected). For that reason, I think the US numbers for fatalities and the high US corona mortality rate are already quite worrying, and suggest that many infections have gone undetected. But we shall see. On the other hand, thus far infections in the US seem remarkably concentrated among older cruise passengers etc, compared to the rather different demographic of those infected in the Netherlands: almost all of those have been on (skiing) holidays in the north of Italy and are far younger and fitter. Thus far there have been no fatalities. Of course it helps that people here do not have to worry about missing pay when they stay home sick, and because everybody has health insurance. So tests and treatment are paid for. But we shall have to wait to see how all these differences work out. Future historians can have a field day identifying these different effects.
Now imagine if covid-19:
Maybe it was population density in Italy (but there are more densely populated countries, such as the Netherlands). The most troubling thing is that the very early stages did not get detected in time and that the hospital became the source of further infection.
Another factor perhaps explaining the early growth is that public health care in Italy is largely a regional responsibility. The country does not have a strong central public health administration.
... Among the WHO regions, Europe has the highest prevalence of tobacco smoking among adults (28%) and some of the highest prevalence of tobacco use by adolescents. ...
Italy has the fifth highest life expectancy in the world, and almost five years better than the US. So it would be hard to argue that the country succumbed to this because it had an unfit population or an inadequate health care system (even though cheap by comparative standards).
I see a lot of these arguments and while well-intentioned it is a form whataboutery. I think that in hindsight we may look at this epidemic as overblown. I sure hope so.
Not sure but I think correct perspective would be if 108 people died in china. How many in the same area and during same period died due to causes mentioned in the image data ? And how much risk that this new threat added to the population..
Not sure but I think correct perspective would be if 108 people died in china. How many in the same area and during same period died due to causes mentioned in the image data ? And how much risk that this new threat added to the population..
Really I think we had enough of this whataboutism. I'm here in the middle of it and this is rather insulting. We all can do these calculations and they don't add anything to the conversations. I've been following this thread because a lot of people are posting news that is useful. This is not. For a science forum, which you promote this is infantile. I'm done."The current death rate for China in 2020 is 7.402 deaths per 1000 people, a 1.94% increase from 2019."
Population of China = 1,408,526,449
That's 1,408,526 thousands, times 7.402 = 10,425,909 deaths in a year, 28,564 per day.
If interested in a specific area, use the population of that area to estimate your answer.
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Hubei Province - 58,500,000 population, 58,500 thousands, 433,017 deaths per year, 1,186 per day
If they had 2,902 CV deaths in the last 60 days, that's an extra 48 per day, for an estimated 1,234 per day.