What cables do you use in your systems?

[VintageFlanker]

Check out the awesome tools they use at Blue Jeans Cable. At about 7:51 they show the ultrasonic welding process of their locking bananas.

Glad BJC use cool machines to make good cables... ...Now, they do really need a webmaster.

Sonically perfect? perfect and analog audio is almost an oxymoron. If you have sensitive enough equipment you can always measure differences

Measurable electrical variations doesn't mean difference will be audible. So it could be sonically perfect all the same.

 

[Willem]

Speedskater do you have scientific evidence for your claim?

 

[Julf]

True only for coax cables.

So how does cable size make a difference for interconnects?

Sonically perfect? perfect and analog audio is almost an oxymoron. If you have sensitive enough equipment you can always measure differences.

"Measurable difference" is not the same as "sonically imperfect. "Sonically perfect" means "so good that there is no audible difference possible". Measurements can find differences much smaller than our ears can, but it doesn't matter.

 

[Sal1950]

Not most, all of them, all those "Nakamichi" plugs on Chinese market sites are fakes. Nakamichi does not manufacture banana plugs, if you look at their website you will see only plugs they have are generic RCA plugs, speaker cables are merely bare wires.

Maybe, maybe they licensed the name?
Personally I don't care if they call them NwAvGuy's LOL. Overall they are good connectors, solidly built with 2 set screws and good material for the leaves that provide ample tension for the connection. Only thing possibly better are the locking ones though a bit pricey when needed in 9 channel amounts. I do highly doubt any audible difference.

 

[Speedskater]

Speedskater do you have scientific evidence for your claim?

Sure, many, many engineering papers, articles, seminars and books by:
Keith Armstrong
Jim Brown
Neil Muncy (RIP)
Henry Ott
Bill Whitlock

 

[Julf]

Sure, many, many engineering papers, articles, seminars and books by:
Keith Armstrong
Jim Brown
Neil Muncy (RIP)
Henry Ott
Bill Whitlock

Links to any of those papers?

 

[Speedskater]

"Sonically perfect" means "so good that there is no audible difference possible".

don't you mean 'audibly indistinguishably' ?
To me sonic, is about sound and not about human hearing.
and perfect copy is just not possible.

 

[Speedskater]

So how does cable size make a difference for interconnects?

What is cable size?

 

[Killingbeans]

Check out the awesome tools they use at Blue Jeans Cable. At about 7:51 they show the ultrasonic welding process of their locking bananas.

Sonobond is now officially on my want list

 

[Julf]

To me sonic, is about sound and not about human hearing.

"If someone plays 'Jazz at the Pawnshop' in the forest, and there is no-one there to hear it..."

perfect copy is just not possible.

I guess you are not aware of this new-fangled thing called "digital"...

 

[Julf]

What is cable size?

No idea, but as a reminder, you responded to

For 0.5-1 foot length cable size does not make any differerence.

with

True only for coax cables.

 

[Speedskater]

Sure, many, many engineering papers, articles, seminars and books by:
Keith Armstrong
Jim Brown
Neil Muncy (RIP)
Henry Ott
Bill Whitlock

The works of the above experts totals some thousands of pages. And while there are links to many of their works, I'm not about to sort it out for you.
Heck, there might be 150 different links for Bill Whitlock.

However Kurt Denke does have a one page blog on RCA unbalanced interconnects. (But it skips the best feature of his LC-1 interconnects : low end-to-end resistance).
https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/subwoofer/LC1-design-notes.htm

 

[Speedskater]

So how does cable size make a difference for interconnects?

In the 'Willem' post, I It took that as a reference to quality or construction.

 

[Julf]

In the 'Willem' post, I It took that as a reference to quality or construction.

OK, that is a somewhat different discussion, but how does the quality or construction of a short interconnect matter in terms of audible effects?

 

[Julf]

The works of the above experts totals some thousands of pages. And while there are links to many of their works, I'm not about to sort it out for you.

All I am asking for is a few links that are actually relevant to the discussion at hand.

However Kurt Denke does have a one page blog on RCA unbalanced interconnects. (But it skips the best feature of his LC-1 interconnects : low end-to-end resistance).
https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/subwoofer/LC1-design-notes.htm

To quote that document:

Capacitance, like many cable attributes, is a per-foot characteristic; while high capacitance won't ordinarily make a significant difference in short runs, it becomes an increasing problem with longer runs.

So even he agrees it doesn't matter at short runs. I wonder what his definition of "longer run" is? half a mile?

The comparison with video cables is irrelevant - the frequencies involved with video are many orders of magnitude higher than with audio.

 

[Speedskater]

I guess you are not aware of this new-fangled thing called "digital"...

That's 'data' not a physical property

 

[Speedskater]

All I am asking for is a few links that are actually relevant to the discussion at hand.

Sorry, I don't have time to go thru a few thousand pages.

 

[Martin]

Not most, all of them, all those "Nakamichi" plugs on Chinese market sites are fakes. Nakamichi does not manufacture banana plugs, if you look at their website you will see only plugs they have are generic RCA plugs, speaker cables are merely bare wires.

You can pretty much guarantee that all cables, wire or connectors on eBay from China are fakes. If the price is too good to be true, it's probably fake.

Martin

 

[Julf]

Sorry, I don't have time to go thru a few thousand pages.

So we should, in order to verify your claims?

 

[Julf]

That's 'data' not a physical property

What has "physical property" to do with it? We are talking about cables. Cables don't transmit sound (or do it very badly). Some transmit electrical signals that represent a sound as voltage or current variations, some represent it as digital data. They accomplish the same function.