Wow, that looks extremely attractive and the top view shows off its form.
No, I didn't say that. I just said that only knowledgeable people can say what is really cool/beautiful design and what is not. Others may or may not accepted their opinion... silently.
What is wrong with the jukebox or changer definitions from Wikipedia?!
I'm familiar with maglev trains which do not involve rotation. I wouldn't rule out such a device especially if the magnets are purely involved with the suspension. However, the photo of a platter spinning in midair definitely arouses my suspicion.
I wanted your definition of "turntable". The WIkipedia definition of "turntable" is the same as mine.
That gives me a chuckle. I lived through an era when everyone had a turntable, and I had, in succession, a record player, then a Radio Shack Realistic turntable, then a Thorens, and my last table, a B&O, which takes us to the 1980s. I can remember my friends having tables from Dual (the most popular), Acoustic Research, Technics, Pioneer, Sansui, Fisher and I don't know what else. One of my university student friends had a quadrophonic setup with a large number of vinyl quadrophonic releases. His setup was the envy of everyone. I have not had a turntable since those days though. The days of going into a stereo shop and looking at 10 models seem to be gone.
What is the Wikipedia definition for jukebox?
In a fixed magnetic field (or any field which satisfies the same partial differential equations) you get instability in one dimension. The way around that is to move the field. You can do this by spinning permanent magnets ("spin-stabilization", like the Levitron tops) or by moving the field, which is what the trains do (since they also using the moving fields for propulsion) and what this turntable do.
Yeah, me too. What slays me is how tables that were considered 'ordinary' back in the day are now so highly regarded. My father's shop was one of the first Panasonic dealers in Chicago, so of course I had a Technics table as a kid. Pretty much everyone else at my college (this was the mid 70s) had a table that would have been deemed better at the time. Nowadays the same Technics direct drive line is highly acclaimed.
Irrelevant to the convo. You dismissed my definition (ie, the dictionary definition) of "turntable") without offering an alternative.
They are not simple, but for sure they are turntables. My dad sold turntables in the 60s and 70s, most of the models he sold were changers, he would have been nonplussed by the claim that they were not turntables.
I’m using an Audio Technica VM540ML but I’ve heard the VM95ML is also a great match with the Technics arm (and less expensive). The Ortofon Red isn’t great, but it gets the job done to start out. You could upgrade to the Blue stylus, but for similar or less money I’d probably go Audio Technica.
Good thing I never said that. At best I said jukebox⊆turntable. Which is clearly true, by any reasonable definition of turntable.
Vladimir, do you ever simultaneously entertain two opposing propositions, not knowing which one is actually correct? Or consider that two opposing propositions might each contain some elements of truth? Also, do you ever try to extract what other people are trying to express, versus correcting what they are saying? I'm not sure your journey on this thread is quite as fruitful as it could be for you.
That's really interesting. I remember when Technics splashed onto the electronics scene, and I'd hate to count how many Panasonic items I've owned over the years. The best brand for consistent durability across the product range, preferable to the other giant, Sony, imo.
OTOH, direct drive tables have electronics that could fail. My old Technics might still work -- we put it into storage when the cue lever stopped working (probably just needs more damping fluid) -- but we also have a Denon from the period where the electronics failed, and while I'm handy with a soldering iron the PCB is too highly populated for me to diagnose the issue. That's the main reason I didn't recommend getting a classic Denon table, which otherwise are works of art.
Really any modern turntable is going to have electronics that can fail, though. At least, anything with decent speed control. Yes, a 30- or 40-year old Technics might have some issues from a beer being spilled on it at the club back in its DJ days, but a brand new one like the 1500c should be reliable for years with virtually no maintenance. And if it does need work, there are tons of technicians who work on them.
