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TOPPING DX5 Lite! Coming soon!

threni said:
It's the RC-15A, same as the one supplied with the E30 DAC. The range is ok but you have to be pretty much facing the display; more than about 20 degrees out and it'll ignore you. I have my DAC at an angle so I can use it when I'm lying on the bed.
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Thank you.
Sounds much the same as the SMSL remote then. Looks like whichever I choose I'm not going to be able to hide it behind my sofa :(
Not a big deal, I guess, there are worse problems to have.
 
I just find it so hard to get excited by their products these days. When things like the D10 came out for £100 that could also act as a DDC, it was a total game changer. More high performing/generic looking products, that you then have to play QC Lottery with is not for me anymore.

If most of us are honest, we’re not just in this hobby for the raw performance. Performance first, sure, but we enjoy the design, features and experience products offer. These conveyor belt iterations leave me a bit meh.
 
Chester said:
I just find it so hard to get excited by their products these days. When things like the D10 came out for £100 that could also act as a DDC, it was a total game changer. More high performing/generic looking products, that you then have to play QC Lottery with is not for me anymore.

If most of us are honest, we’re not just in this hobby for the raw performance. Performance first, sure, but we enjoy the design, features and experience products offer. These conveyor belt iterations leave me a bit meh.
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Performance IS experience, though. For a DAC, I mean. I don't care what it looks like. You might. But for what it's worth, the E30 looks good to me. The design is "small, metal box, clear display you can dim, works first time & every time". Features - again, I can't knock it. I only use USB in and PCM format files. I can't tell the difference between the filters - nobody can, can they - they're all way above the hearing range of all but the most golden-eared human. I paid less than £100 for it and it's just worked, every day. Conveyer belt? Well, look at Android smartphones. Many manufacturers, churning out many phones a year. At this point they're commodities; who gets excited about a phone? They have a job to do and their job is to do it and stay out of the way...like a DAC. This is how capitalism works, right? You're tooled up to build, so make loads and someone will like the particular size/cpu power/camera capability/build quality (ie metal vs glass vs plastic) combo - something you'd miss if you only built one model a year. You only need one DAC per system - I'm always amused by the "I've got DAC x but now DAC y is out...". You've got a DAC! Go and play some music!

QC lottery? Well, I guess that depends on how seriously one takes the recent spate of "taking complaints about Topping seriously" (This is related to the recent Two Minutes Hate about Topping, right?). There's simply no way of determining from posts on the internet who widespread a problem is. Go to google and search Reddit for any phone brand, any part of a phone and the word faulty. For example "reddit pixel 6a faulty screen". Better not buy a pixel 6a, right? Keep going. Let me know when you find a phone that won't develop a cracked screen, or burst into flames the moment you pick it up.

What solution are you proposing? Don't buy cheap hifi? Don't but Topping hardware? Don't buy anything made in China? Don't buy anything made less than 5 years ago?

If you're talking about every product ever made by anyone at any price point then I probably agree with you. It's a bit crap that no matter what you buy and from there you have limited rights. I get stuff from Amazon generally because at least there you have a year to return stuff. It's a lot worse in many places. You'll hear people say you get two years in the EU. Well, I'm in the EU and just try it. It's hard work. And you'll generally (in my experience/people I've spoken to/read about online) get a refurb. There's no requirement for you to get your money back, or a new one. You may or may not find this acceptable. I'd buy more expensive stuff if I thought I was going to be supported for a number of years related to the cost, but it's like DAC performance; no relationship between price and quality.
 
Is the 4 pin XLR on the front giving actual balanced output?
 
staticV3 said:
No. The 1/4" jack and the 4pin XLR jack both output the same, single-ended signal. The XLR HP out is there for convenience, not for more power.
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Same as EX5 which is a shame.
 
Ordered one
 
metalrufflez said:
Same here.

Shame its backordered until Mid April from Shenzhen Audio. But welp, got a good price with loyalty points, so, I'll wait.
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hifigo for me, I've ordered through them before.. no idea when it will arrive though
 
@JohnYang1997
Would it be possible to get a firmware update which allows the automatic screen-off happen faster than 30 seconds? Preferably if I could decide it on my own from 1 to 30s.
 
bkdc said:
I’m always a fan of a balanced option. Boycott MQA!!!
I would boycott Tidal if I could get a Qobuz option on my Tesla screen. JayZ does not need any more money.
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Tidal pays better rates to artists than Spotify. And I'd rather JayZ have my money than Daniel Ek or Tim Cook.

I hope Topping does this with a few other models - I have no use for MQA.
 
ampguy said:
Looks like it may be a good deal. It has the ESS 9068AS, and same XU216, all same as non-lite, except for no MQA, according to Apos website.
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Whether this is an advantage over the ES9038Q2M used in the DX3 Pro+ and EX5 is yet to be found out though as the datasheets at ESS don't mention the de-emphasis support via S/PDIF for their newer chips anymore.

Smitty2k1 said:
About $150 more than the DX3 Pro+. Gives you balanced in/out. Not terrible but not worth it for this user.
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The prive/value - ratio of the DX3 Pro+ looks a lot better. Only reason I gave it a try with the EX5 now instead is that I hate those tiny, mechanically horrible 3.5mm headphone jacks. No idea why out of all decent models, they opted for that one on the DX3 Pro+, sigh.
 
I like that it has a balance adjustment. Is that a first for Topping?
 
Do we have any DX5 Lite owners here? I am considering the product and I wonder if Bluetooth is implemented in any other way how it is with DX3 Pro+, i.e. in the worst possible way known to man. DX3 Pro+ implementation has multiple flaws:
- BT input is active at all times, anyone can connect to it in any given moment
- DX3 Pro+ can even automatically switch to BT input (and even wake from standby when doing so) when other inputs are not active or it is in standby.
Others can do it, e.g. Fiio K9 will be visible to discovery when not using BT input, it also won't allow anyone to connect to it, unless the device is switched to BT input specifically (and it doesn't switch to it automatically).
 
dropbear said:
Do we have any DX5 Lite owners here? I am considering the product and I wonder if Bluetooth is implemented in any other way how it is with DX3 Pro+, i.e. in the worst possible way known to man. DX3 Pro+ implementation has multiple flaws:
- BT input is active at all times, anyone can connect to it in any given moment
- DX3 Pro+ can even automatically switch to BT input (and even wake from standby when doing so) when other inputs are not active or it is in standby.
Others can do it, e.g. Fiio K9 will be visible to discovery when not using BT input, it also won't allow anyone to connect to it, unless the device is switched to BT input specifically (and it doesn't switch to it automatically).
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The DX5 Lite's User Manual shows that you can at least turn off Bluetooth in the Setup Menu.

How it behaves WRT auto-switching inputs and standby wakeup, I don't know.
 
Hello!

I have the DX5 lite since end of July 2023. It has been great with the Neumann system (one KH 750 DSP and two KH 120 II).
Sadly, since the beginning of August 2024, it seems like it delivers no signal to the subwoofer. However, I'm still able to listen the sounds through the Jack connector on the front panel.


If I replace the DS5 lite with a UMC22, everything is fine and I can use the speakers.
-> Do you know if my problem is known and has already been solved? Or maybe have I simply received a faulty product?


I tried to install the new firmware but I'm unable to have access to it: I use this link (https://www.toppingaudio.com/download/dx5-lite-version-v1-14-firmware-update-not-for-dx5) but I'm unable to download anything (https://dl.topping.audio/usermanual/240105_DX5 Lite_V1.14 FOR Win.zip): "this site can't be reached". I tried with Firefox, Brave and Edge.
-> Do you know how to download the last firmware?


Thank you in advance.
 
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