The Death of Windows 10

[mhardy6647]

Microsoft's perverse interpretation of continuous improvement drives me nuts.

 

[Doodski]

Microsoft's perverse interpretation of continuous improvement drives me nuts.

I have changed my habits and do more than I used to do. I use Chrome, notepad, Paint and Win Explorer. That's it because I never had to repair or change anything for some years. It's just use it and forget the machine/appliance. Not including the task bar vertical alignment feature/option was a slap in the face.

 

[Blumlein 88]

IMO, task bar and everything needs to be at the top. So much more efficient. Restorer-John suggested it and it did not take more than a couple days to decide he was right on. I was on linux, so I could put it wherever I wanted it.

 

[pseudoid]

IMO, task bar and everything needs to be at the top...

I just can't visualize how different being at the top rather at the bottom is or can be.
Just add a negative sign! gulp.gif

Screen format is 16:9: You have more empty space - to use for the taskbar - on the 16-side than you do on the 9-side.
Don't make me pull-out my HP11C, please.

OT: A Firefox add-on, called TreeStyleTabs, provides a vertical tree-style sidebar, for tabs, history, etc. and behaves similarly to StartAllBack on the desktop. By un-allocating space for the tabs' bar atop of the FF browser, it allows more lines on the 9-side

 

[Blumlein 88]

I just can't visualize how different being at the top rather at the bottom is or can be.
Just add a negative sign! gulp.gif

Screen format is 16:9: You have more empty space - to use for the taskbar - on the 16-side than you do on the 9-side.
Don't make me pull-out my HP11C, please.

OT: A Firefox add-on, called TreeStyleTabs, provides a vertical tree-style sidebar, for tabs, history, etc. and behaves similarly to StartAllBack on the desktop. By un-allocating space for the tabs' bar atop of the FF browser, it allows more lines on the 9-side

With a browser and multiple tabs everything is at the top. Same with much software in a window. So you end up going up and down so much with the mouse. You are used to it and don't notice. Try it and I think you'll quickly see the difference.

Yes there is more empty space to the side. The side is definitely better than the bottom. I also have switched to Vivaldi for the browser and it does put things over to the side by default which is okay in the wide format screens.

 

[pseudoid]

Microsoft's perverse interpretation of continuous improvement drives me nuts.

MDS must be like TDS. We must like abuse!
I think cementing epoxying the taskbar on the bottom (Win11) was to show us that they are hip with the times... can follow the Leader!

Yes there is more empty space to the side.

We now live in the portrait world and I am stuck in the old landscape era.

 

[mhardy6647]

MDS must be like TDS. We must like abuse!
I think cementing epoxying the taskbar on the bottom (Win11) was to show us that they are hip with the times... can follow the Leader!

We now live in the portrait world and I am stuck in the old landscape era.

A relative-by-marriage of my wife was, back in the day (and for a time), CEO of a Silicon Valley tech company called Radius.
Do you remember them?

 

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[Berwhale]

With a browser and multiple tabs everything is at the top. Same with much software in a window. So you end up going up and down so much with the mouse. You are used to it and don't notice. Try it and I think you'll quickly see the difference.

Yes there is more empty space to the side. The side is definitely better than the bottom. I also have switched to Vivaldi for the browser and it does put things over to the side by default which is okay in the wide format screens.

On an ultrawidescreen (UWQHD) monitor, the side is a very long way away - I've tried using the start menu there (with StartAllBack), but it's quite literally a pain to get the mouse over there.

I've settled on Start11 with the menu in the middle of the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. The middle makes the most sense to me on UWQHD and I don't like it at the top because that's where the app menus are.

I also have the Start11 menu in 'Windows 10' mode. I started using Windows 10 in 2014, during the beta, and once Microsoft eventually sorted out the tiles I grew to like them.

The Start11 version of the tiles is far more sophisticated than Windows 10. You can have tabbed groups, file system folders as groups and many other customizations.

You can tell how long i've been a Windows user because I still like to have a group called 'Main' ('MS-DOS Executive' looks rubbish as a tab title)

 

[Berwhale]

A relative-by-marriage of my wife was, back in the day (and for a time), CEO of a Silicon Valley tech company called Radius.
Do you remember them?


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Yeah, I supported a few Macs with Radius screens back in the day.

 

[rdenney]

…
Don't make me pull-out my HP11C, please. …

Further diversion: I was teaching an engineering class online a couple of years ago, and thought it would be funny to ask them to pull out their calculators and then (on video) pull out my beautiful Keuffel & Esser decitrig log-log slide rule.

Crickets.

Then, I pulled out my HP-11C and the students all laughed.

Sigh.

Rick “no longer one of the cool kids” Denney

 

[G|force]

A relative-by-marriage of my wife was, back in the day (and for a time), CEO of a Silicon Valley tech company called Radius.
Do you remember them?


View attachment 378823

I remember Radius Rocket Share accelerator cards in a Mac Quadra 900/950.
"Need more power? Launch another rocket."

 

[pseudoid]

Then, I pulled out my HP-11C and the students all laughed.

I inserted that 'bit', thinking a - no-longer relevant - old-timer would get a kick out of it!

 

[mhardy6647]

As most of all y'all know, each fall semester I teach a (i.e., one) grad school course at a large-ish private university in Boston (not Cambridge , but right across the river from the cool private universities). One day a few years ago on a lovely late summer afternoon, I was sittin' on a bench surfing the web (probably ASR) on my trusty cannon-fodder laptop computer, which is a Lenovo T430. A college kid saw me, walked over and said: Is that a T430? Cool!

I couldn't decide whether to feel embarrassed or flattered.

 

[Berwhale]

Further diversion: I was teaching an engineering class online a couple of years ago, and thought it would be funny to ask them to pull out their calculators and then (on video) pull out my beautiful Keuffel & Esser decitrig log-log slide rule.

Crickets.

Then, I pulled out my HP-11C and the students all laughed.

Sigh.

Rick “no longer one of the cool kids” Denney

+1 for RPN

 

[Berwhale]

As most of all y'all know, each fall semester I teach a (i.e., one) grad school course at a large-ish private university in Boston (not Cambridge , but right across the river from the cool private universities). One day a few years ago on a lovely late summer afternoon, I was sittin' on a bench surfing the web (probably ASR) on my trusty cannon-fodder laptop computer, which is a Lenovo T430. A college kid saw me, walked over and said: Is that a T430? Cool!

I couldn't decide whether to feel embarrassed or flattered.

Tsk, a 701C would be cool

 

[pseudoid]

I couldn't decide whether to feel embarrassed or flattered.

Wellllll, 'acceptance' of being...

...- no-longer relevant - old-timer ...

can possibly be an alternative and new immersive experience for you.

You can contemplate getting your proverbial 'a$$ laminated by Borg', in the future.

 

[pseudoid]

+1 for RPN

+2 for RPN
[I have two HP-11Cs]

SwissMicro sells HP-11C clones and noticed that sometimes there are also 'refurbished' versions at their website.
I have had one of their older DM-11 models but it went tango-uniform a few months ago. Its plastic (membrane) keys felt and sounded cheap and was very slow.
I noticed that they have a new DM-11L model ($170):

Construction: Case made from a sand-blasted Grade 1 Titanium housing, brown anodized and laser engraved
Software: ARM microcontroller emulating the NUT processor
Processor: LPC1115 32-bit ARM Cortex-M0 microcontroller
Memory: 64 kB internal flash, 8kB RAM
Display Type: Reflective Positive FSTN
Display Resolution: 132 × 16 pixels
Display Active Area: 69.1 mm × 10.0 mm / 2.72" x 0.39"
Display Dot Pitch: 524 ?m × 626 ?m
Connectivity (PC): USB Mini-AB port for firmware update and data exchange via CDC
Battery Type: 1 × CR2032 lithium coin cell, 3.0 volts
Battery Life: Up to 5 years
Sound: 4 kHz resonance frequency Piezo-electric buzzer
Size: 129 mm × 79 mm × 13 mm / 5.08" x 3.11" x 0.51"
Weight: 150 g / 5.29 oz
Warranty: 5 years

SwissMicro also offers a DM-15L (=HP-15C clone).
(This is NOT an endorsement of these products.)

 

[Blumlein 88]

I used those very early HP's with RPN, and I know the esteem they are held in. I detest RPN. Always have. Switched to a TI and was far happier.

 

[Doodski]

+2 for RPN
[I have two HP-11Cs]

SwissMicro sells HP-11C clones and noticed that sometimes there are also 'refurbished' versions at their website.
I have had one of their older DM-11 models but it went tango-uniform a few months ago. Its plastic (membrane) keys felt and sounded cheap and was very slow.
I noticed that they have a new DM-11L model ($170):
View attachment 379064

SwissMicro also offers a DM-15L (=HP-15C clone).
(This is NOT an endorsement of these products.)

Wonderful piece. I did my entire electronics study with a HP 11C and I had never seen one before when it was given to me a few days before class started. It was a ride....