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Kal Rubinson

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Well, that's timely. I happen to be going somewhat back and forth with the Stereophile folks, in the comment sections, on just such a subject:
We/I already dealt with the AQVOX in 2018.
 

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Just out of curiosity which company do you think started this whole speaker cable snake oil worm hole?
 

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FYI & FWIW: You should be able to delete it yourself, @Kal Rubinson

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Just out of curiosity which company do you think started this whole speaker cable snake oil worm hole?
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^^^ Audio Dec. 1977 (later, and better, known as CobraCables. Sourced from a Japanese company and notorious for their high capacitance)

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^^^ Audio Sep. 1979 The Gold-ens interconnects date back to at least 1976
 

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Oh, I dunno. Our colleague @Kal Rubinson seems to have his head fairly squarely attached to his shoulders. :)
Maybe now but I fell for a lot of that stuff when it came out in the '70s, despite my scientific background. Took quite a while for the scales to drop from my eyes.
 

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^^^ Audio Dec. 1977 (later, and better, known as CobraCables. Sourced from a Japanese company and notorious for their high capacitance)

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^^^ Audio Sep. 1979 The Gold-ens interconnects date back to at least 1976

Nice find. I didn't realise it went that far back. Seeing as though you are so good at this see if you can find the first review of a speaker cable. I want to know who is responsible for this.
 

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Maybe now but I fell for a lot of that stuff when it came out in the '70s, despite my scientific background. Took quite a while for the scales to drop from my eyes.
You could say "Born Again"?
 

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OMG! Magico doesn't have Nordost wires??? I think I just lost all my respect for the "Magic" of Magico. LOL.
Sadly, some idiots probably did lose respect for them :facepalm:
 

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Anything and everything that comes out of Ric "Mr. Tweak" Shultz's mouth...it's like a firehose of bs....
 

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I -- ahem -- in full disclosure, hadn't gone to the phenomenal archive that is worldradiohistory.com looking for wire ads :) I was collecting ads from Polk Audio in honor of their then approaching 50th anniversary. At least, that was my excuse! :cool:

The 70s were heady times (pun somewhat attended) for audio.

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Not that I am really as obsessive as it might seem ;) but looky at this ad from Dec. 1978!

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1) They spiffed up the cosmetics!
2) They offer some testable claims!

source: https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-Audio/70s/Audio-1978-12.pdf

:)

PS I guess minimal signal loss vcoupled with up to a 2 dB gain might mean that we have to invoke imaginary numbers -- so maybe this is a phase-angle thing?!? ;)



Ohhhhh. The snake oil drips off that sucker.
That's a big 10-4 (in the patois of the time), good buddy!
You can even see the fangs. Heck, you could milk the venom from them suckas! :cool:
 
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