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Seeking help Choosing Between Floorstanding Speakers

DALFA

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Hi All,
I'm planning to purchase a pair of Floorstanding Speakers in the next week and am paralyzed with indecision!

I live in India where the prices are much higher than those in the U.S, so I would obviously like the best bang for the buck.

The F228Be is the most expensive then the KEF R11 Meta and the cheapest is the JBL HDI3800.

I do all my listening mostly through the TV ARC, DVD and sometimes turntable.
Music preferences are 80's Pop, Classic Rock, occasionally recent Pop and often Classical Western music.

I use 2 SVS subs as a good "Bass Thump" is my thing, especially when no one's home and I can crank up the volume.
Midrange and smooth, "high's" are very important and meaningful in my grand scheme of things!

I'm dying for the Revel Sound, but am also very impressed with the JBL reviews. I understand they don't measure too well from what I've read on this forum and from Erin's review, but is there a huge difference in the overall presentation and SQ? I know it's a tough call, but would it be like 5% or 10% worse than the Revel's?

I've read Amir's review of the KEF R11 Meta, and they seem to measure well, but I've heard the "Q" series in the years past and wasn't at all impressed.

Unlike the U.S, I can't get a live audition to compare these speakers because every dealer specialises in certain brands and they are spread out all over the country! There is not a single brick-and-mortar store to compare different brands.

Another huge issue is that Harman India, which imports the Revel's and JBL's are notorious for extremely poor customer service and product spares are never in stock!
So, I would like to also know if the Revel's and JBL's are quality products, which can potentially last for 10 years minimum, without spares and repairs needed? Of course, I understood that "luck" is a big factor with electronics, so would like to take an educated gamble if I'm spending this much money.

The KEF dealer/importer are in Mumbai, India, where I live, so support is that much better. Is KEF known for robust products?

I'm veering towards the JBL HDI3800 mainly because it's half the price, but would gladly pay more for the JBL/KEF if the advice I get from this esteemed forum recommends so!

My sincere apologies for such a long post, but I will be Most Grateful for any and every input I receive to make this journey easier.
Thank-You So Much! (In advance)
PRod
 
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That's pretty wild trio. 3500, 6500 and 12000€ around here (pair, tax included).

Revels are the best but you could own both JBL and KEF for the price and still have money for nice Purifi amplification.

KEF R11 is very far from the basic Q's. It's an extremely smooth balanced speaker.
Haven't heard the JBL, I don't much appreciate their style in general and I find it hard to associate that design with smooth highs. But I could be wrong of course.
 
check the deals for revel F208 since its been discontinued and its a better speaker than the KEF or the JBL.
 
That's pretty wild trio. 3500, 6500 and 12000€ around here (pair, tax included).

Revels are the best but you could own both JBL and KEF for the price and still have money for nice Purifi amplification.

KEF R11 is very far from the basic Q's. It's an extremely smooth balanced speaker.
Haven't heard the JBL, I don't much appreciate their style in general and I find it hard to associate that design with smooth highs. But I could be wrong of course.
Hi Verig, I too have a similar feelings about the JBL's; a 2 1/2 way design doesn't seem as appealing as a 3-way, which is why I'm so reluctant to take the plunge although the price is most attractive!
I don't want to experience buyers remorse, which, in effect would be a total loss if the desired SQ is way below my expectations.
Many Thanks for sharing your views!
 
check the deals for revel F208 since its been discontinued and its a better speaker than the KEF or the JBL.
Hi Azzy, the F208 was indeed my first choice, unfortunately it's completely sold out with every dealer and distributor in India!
That's why the dilemma!
 
Hi Azzy, the F208 was indeed my first choice, unfortunately it's completely sold out with every dealer and distributor in India!
That's why the dilemma!
So is the F206...
 
Hi Azzy, the F208 was indeed my first choice, unfortunately it's completely sold out with every dealer and distributor in India!
These all show stock?


JSmith
 
I'd go for the JBL M2s myself. The F228Bes would work, too.
 
When I read your post saying you are “dying for Revel sound”, I think you may have answered your own question. They are lovely. Like others have mentioned the KEFs R11s are way beyond the Q series and are also amazing. But every single time in the last 30 years of making audio purchases where I’ve felt I settled to save a few bucks I’ve found myself regretting it and it costing me more in the long run. If you’re like me I’d say go for what you really want.
 
These all show stock?


JSmith
Yes, for some odd reason these guys don't update their website even when there's no stock.

It works like this-- They feature all the speaker brands for sale, but don't actually have them in their Possession.

When they get an enquiry, they contact the main importer/distributor of the brand concerned, take the money from the customer in full, buy it at the dealer price (35-50% less) and dispatch it to the customer!
In this case, it is Harman India which is the official importer/distributor.

I posted my requirement on, "India Mart," the biggest trade website in India which is like a directory-cum-index for anything/everything you can imagine, from A to Z. (They themselves, don't sell anything.)
When you post a requirement for any product, they send it to every manufacturer, dealer or importer of the product desired, who in turn contact you to make a direct sale.--- In effect, "India Mart" is merely the broker.

That's how I know that no store or dealer in India have the F206/208.
The only Revel speakers available are the Performa 226/228/328Be, and a few Be Architectural speakers.
In short, if Harman India doesn't have it, no dealer has it.
 
It works like this-- They feature all the speaker brands for sale, but don't actually have them in their Possession.
Understood, I thought it may be something along these lines... deceptive.


JSmith
 
Be's are absolutely great. If money is no object just go for it. I don't really hear marked difference between those Revels and something, say, three times the price. Something different and of course bigger is bigger if your space needs it but not really better.
 
Be's are absolutely great. If money is no object just go for it. I don't really hear marked difference between those Revels and something, say, three times the price. Something different and of course bigger is bigger if your space needs it but not really better.
Well, I definitely would blindly take the F228Be if I was convinced about Harman's product support in the future.

Things work very differently in a 3rd world country where big corporations pretty much do what they please and care nothing about Customer Service, knowing that no one's going to waste time in a Consumer Court, waiting 3-5 years for a judgement!
Harman is huge in India, but dealers tell me their product support/spares leave too much to be desired.

That's where the pricing cones in--- It's easier to lose USD 5000 on the JBL than USD 11,000 on the Revel-- That's my predicament!
 
Well, I definitely would blindly take the F228Be if I was convinced about Harman's product support in the future.
Why worry? It's a pretty simple passive loudspeaker with little to go wrong. Drivers or XO could be sent to you for self-fitting if by chance you were to damage one - but you probably won't, so don't worry about a perceived lack of "product support". Revel is a well-established and respected brand so spares are always likely to be available - even if by post to India.

PS - And the Revel is no more likely to need support than the other speakers on your list, so perhaps just go for the one you think is best.
 
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That's where the pricing cones in--- It's easier to lose USD 5000 on the JBL than USD 11,000 on the Revel-- That's my predicament!
$5000 for the JBL? And I though Finnish price 3500 was a bit high. I would not touch for 5000.
 
I am pretty sure any of these will work perfectly with a decent amp. What amp do you have. Unless you have a very large room KEF R7 or R3 would be great . In any event I would use a subwoofer. I’ve not owned Revel but they always get great reviews. Pass on JBL not really I brand i follow.
 
Hi Azzy, the F208 was indeed my first choice, unfortunately it's completely sold out with every dealer and distributor in India!
That's why the dilemma!
what about the F36? i would still pick that speaker over the KEF and JBL
 
If you already have 2 subs, why not opt for the R7 meta? they're basically the same anyway
 
I am pretty sure any of these will work perfectly with a decent amp. What amp do you have. Unless you have a very large room KEF R7 or R3 would be great . In any event I would use a subwoofer. I’ve not owned Revel but they always get great reviews. Pass on JBL not really I brand i follow.
My current equipment is Athem Pre-Pro, a pair of GoldenEar Triton 2+ speakers and 2 SVS SB 1000.
My Tritons are just 3 years old, and my overall SQ is excellent, so, in theory, I don't really need anything!
However, after reading and watching reviews on the Revel line, I got, "Upgraditis," and decided to use the Tritons on surround duties.
 
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