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Prices of Very Large Flat TVs are Falling Fast

The thread title ain't wrong. I know this one is a lower-level model, but $2K for a 100-inch QLED? You get 800 nits of brightness. :cool:
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I like how a large diagonal 4K TV is making it easier to view streams of simultaneous events - like the 'Multi-View' stream of up to four English Premier League matches from Peacock TV. I can sit closer watching four smaller 'pictures' - each approaching Full HD resolution.
 
I got a relatively cheap 98 inch TV
Now I can never go back to smaller TVs
Even if their picture quality is better
I'd rather sacrifice quality than size
Could not agree more. I am already thinking of 115", but prices are way to high now. So in couple of years 98" replaces 88" in the living room that is pushing a decade, and HT gets 115".
 
Add to this thread, laser-illuminated TI DMD-based 4K projectors are falling in price and improving in gamut. 110% Rec. 2020.
 
Personal preferences. I don't find my eyes tired even after back-to-back movie sessions with one of the brightest mini LEDs.

I usually hear that PJs are more "cinematic" - whatever that is.
 
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The projector is always better because it doesn't tire the eyes.

My experience is I can reduce the risk of eyestrain in a dark viewing space by reducing the backlighting on my flat TV.

I cannot fully control the ambient light in my viewing space. I made peace with using a projector at darker times of the day because I could not afford a flat TV offering a picture of a similar size. At some times of the day, using my projector would cause eyestrain because it could not overcome the ambient light.
 
Interesting perspective and thanks for sharing.

As of now DV titles or mini LEDs (at least mine) are automatically mapped to 1k nits as most masters, and even few 4k nit masters are well behaved in overall brightness - it is really just the brightest highlights that go high up the nit scale. HDR titles and SDR titles indeed require brightness adjustment between the bright and dark room, but that's not that difficult to do.

There was so much advancement in mini LEDs over last year, and looks even more coming this year. It's hard to imagine for people that have not experienced it. And prices are falling like a rock. TV I bought for 7K euros 15 mos ago is now 4K, and in US $3K. For now PJs will continue to dominate for screens larger than 115", with all its pros and cons.

TCL can already produce 130" 4K panels, but I guess the issue at that size and with the tech is that you might need 8K panel for that size.
 
I'm surprised that large OLEDs (83 inch and up) are still relatively expensive
Especially when burn-in is still an issue with that technology
 
Needing a dark room all the time for optimal viewing is not practical for me at all
Of course. One way to improve projection is with a screen tuned to reflect the RGB laser wavelengths and not reflect the other wavelengths in ambient light. Rec. 2020 primaries are 630 nm for red, 532 nm for green, and 467 nm for blue. If you build a screen with thin film filters to only reflect around those wavelengths your room can be brighter. Valerion is a new projector company which came out of ACME. There are quite a few laser projectors active on Kickstarter.
 
Needing a dark room all the time for optimal viewing is not practical for me at all
Here it is turned on at least 10 hours a day just like a television.
Now I'm listening to Apple Music with the lyrics scrolling across a 120 inch size.
Obviously it is not possible to completely illuminate the room but it is very usable during the day.


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TCL can already produce 130" 4K panels, but I guess the issue at that size and with the tech is that you might need 8K panel for that size.

I recall an article (around 2017 ?) in the New York Times talking about a new generation (Gen 2.5 ?) of LCD panel that would soon start production and allow for a diagonal of up to 132 inches. This recollection makes me wonder whether the relatively cheap prices for very large TV's is due to the use of maturing LCD panel technology.
 
I'm surprised that large OLEDs (83 inch and up) are still relatively expensive
Especially when burn-in is still an issue with that technology
It has to do with manufacturing.

The battle now is between Korean and Chinese manufacturing.

Each new fab is a large capital cost that is spread over years of production, with oversupply dynamics. Fabs have to be built next to glass substrate factories. The glass substrates are classified by size in "Gen" - generation. Current OLED Gen 8.5 is 2200x2500mm. Current LCD Gen 10+ is 2840mm x 3370mm.
Friends have visited the factories. A robot arm picks up the glass. The inertia and air resistance starts the glass vibrating. Two much vibration and the glass breaks.

The substrate size controls the finished panel cut mix. The larger the finished panel, the greater probability of pixel defects. Then you need a sales channel to get some revenues from panels with pixel defects. The competition between LCD and OLED will go on for some time. Roll up OLED systems are a great solution to the big screen dominating the room problem, and shipping and installing big glass screens. Roll up will have its own quality and durability challenges to be solved.

Glass handling clean room robot cell (You can click on Watch on You Tube)

 
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