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Not trying to be arrogant here, but who listens to this?

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Yesterday I attended a great concert in an old church where several analog synthesizers were played. The three musicians are all from the same family. Grandfather, father and junior. They are academically trained musicians who play professionally classical instruments in orchestras. E.g. with the Sächsische Staatskapelle Dresden. They make electronic music together only as a hobby. No pop music was played, but really solemn own compositions, in a force, which is not inferior to e.g. a huge church organ. It was a wonderful concert, where I also had nice conversations with the musicians. So the long drive was really worthwhile. Today I'm going to Dresden again with my wife, to another concert.

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Those are indeed some wonderful analog synths.
 

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Those are indeed some wonderful analog synths.
Thanks for your friendly comment!

Just like you don't need a record player to listen to an album any more, you don't need instruments with analogue technology to make electronic music. You can do it all with a laptop. In fact, at concerts, you see more and more young musicians operating their laptops with a pompous look on their faces.

It's not the same, and I'm glad there's still this other analogue world. Working with it manually also leads to different results. By the way, there was also another early analogue electronic musical instrument, a theremin.
 

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About 10 years ago I was once at a concert of 'Kazike', that's a guy who built new analog synthesizers in the old style in Lisbon at that time. Whether he still does it today, I don't know.

Kazike said the following, which I wrote down because I thought it was good:

"I am sure that these who understand and have experienced analog sound synthesis, will be much more careful about their later sound productions than those who start from the beginning by obeying the dictate of software programmers or, better, starting with simulation instead of creation."

I have also noted the links to two websites:

Here are another photos of Kazike I took at the concert, at the ZKM Karlsruhe: https://zkm.de/en

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Image to the 'Zeitstaub' concert of post #921 with the ensemble 'Klangwerk am Bauhaus' at the 'Kunstraum-Pillnitz' https://kunstraum-pillnitz.de/

The joy about the beautiful concert still echoes, because that was exactly our thing - like modern art, design, music and literature in general. It was once again an almost private setting.

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Just finished listening to this, it reminded me of this thread. Some might not consider it music, some might find it too mainstream (too lyrical?), I love it :)

Promising but I'll have to spend some time with it. Too lyrical doesn't sound like a problem in itself. What I often find a turn off is romantic lyricism.

It made me think of the TV drama called Katla that we enjoyed a lot. The graphics here are strikingly similar to those on your youtube.
 

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About 10 years ago I was once at a concert of 'Kazike', that's a guy who built new analog synthesizers in the old style in Lisbon at that time. Whether he still does it today, I don't know.

Kazike said the following, which I wrote down because I thought it was good:

"I am sure that these who understand and have experienced analog sound synthesis, will be much more careful about their later sound productions than those who start from the beginning by obeying the dictate of software programmers or, better, starting with simulation instead of creation."

I have also noted the links to two websites:

Here are another photos of Kazike I took at the concert, at the ZKM Karlsruhe: https://zkm.de/en

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In a picture like the first one here the striking thing is that it uses a conventional keyboard, like it's designed to be an electronic version of church organ. (Switched On Bach makes perfect sense!)

When you modify or completely replace this part of the instrument then very interesting things can happen. As Morton Subotnick explained, the user interface imposes a language. And of course the conventional keyboard brings all the implications of its tradition with it. Change it and the instrument forces you into a new language.

When I was playing the Nord Micro Modular synth, I did not use a MIDI controller so I had only the front panel controls: 3 parameters control knobs, 1 button, and a volume knob. That is a very alien language! I had to discover its meanings. Three examples of the results are here and here and here (all three are improvised solos on the same user interface as shown below. Mobility 1 had some additional audio processing but the others not much, iirc). The band Blood Money was sorta built around that synth too.

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Three examples of the results are here and here and here (all three are improvised solo performances on the same user interface as shown below.
Interesting sound samples, thank you. I didn't listen to the whole third piece, it was too long for me. My own finger exercises in this area have not been recorded or archived. Most of what I do in the context of art is also very ephemeral, it's just there for the moment or for a short while. Some people get it and I then go on and do something else.
 

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What do y'all think of Ernst Bacon? New to me. I'm listening to Bardley Colten's album of solo guitar now.

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There really is a lot of strange music out there. Hard to come down to a common taste.

A composer from Leipzig, Knut Müller, I met last weekend at the concert, a very nice man, also a visual artist, lyricist and computer artist, sent me some material in the mail. Among them also a CD with works of him. When I hear (and see) something like this live, I like it. Heard as a recording, I like it less and have trouble concentrating on it.


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How about ‘Panic’ by Birtwistle ..

I can’t see much beauty in this , but each their own I guess

I made that youtube video! My friend Gav is palying Bassoon in the orchestra. And I love it! Birtwistle has been one of my favorites since the mid 80s and remains so.

My fiend and very accomplished composer Ken Ueno joined Gav and me to discuss Birtwistle and a CD this recording of Panic is on in our Gas Giants Podcast. You can find it in your favorite podcasts app or using the link below. The episode title is Birtwistle - A Round of Drinks with Ken Ueno.

In another episode of Gas Giants we discussed the Naked Lunch soundtrack album which features some music from the Master Musicians of Jajouka, whom Ornette Coleman visited and recorded in 1972. That opened up the whole connection with Pan, the goat god, who is responsible for panic, the affliction, who is therefore also responsible for this music you shared.


I doubt beauty was Birtwistle's top priority in composing Panic. Fun, exciting, thrilling, interesting, surprising, invogorating are adjectives that make sense to me.
 
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I made that youtube video!
That is awesome !! A friend of mine performed it with John Harle at The Proms a few years ago. I still remember the Points of View programme where the complaints poured in after it was broadcast. As for the adjectives you chose - I can get those at Alton Towers (just pulling your leg!)
 

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How about ‘Panic’ by Birtwistle ..

I can’t see much beauty in this , but each their own I guess

For me (my brain), this composition is too complex for me to gain any beauty or pleasure from it. So actually only an impression of cacophony remains.
 

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For me (my brain), this composition is too complex for me to gain any beauty or pleasure from it. So actually only an impression of cacophony remains.
It's chaos, sometimes becoming partly organized. As you watch the sax player, imagine him with goat's head, horns and legs chasing terrified maidens (panic!). I think it probably helps if you like jazz drummers too.
 

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That is awesome !! A friend of mine performed it with John Harle at The Proms a few years ago. I still remember the Points of View programme where the complaints poured in after it was broadcast. As for the adjectives you chose - I can get those at Alton Towers (just pulling your leg!)
That's a very famous performance. I think Sir Harry and everyone involved must have been very proud at the volume of hate mail they got. We talked about this very deliberate programming choice on the podcast.
 

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It's chaos, sometimes becoming partly organized. As you watch the sax player, imagine him with goat's head, horns and legs chasing terrified maidens (panic!). I think it probably helps if you like jazz drummers too.
Hm, I clearly experience this in a somewhat different way: the sax player is (seems to be) very bound by the notes - interesting in itself as most sax players do improvise and are seemingly more relaxed (not sure if this is the best word ...). With that, I have some trouble see the sax player chasing maidens ... but I can see him with a goats head! (still bound ). Somehow I get the impression the sax player needs to break his bounds - but can't.

For me this is not chaos, as with "chaos" I mean something without order. But here is order, indeed complex, but order.
Interesting, provocative and all that - which is the role art must have, otherwise it is just plain beauty (and beauty is the neigbour to boring).

Thanks!
 
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