Looking for DAC with "no smooth" sound signature

[computer-audiophile]

... i said TOPPING E 30 is a kind of DAC i like and im looking similar kind of sound, but better. Is that realy strange for some of You guys :-( ?

You can upgrade from the e30 to the e30II (that is what I did)

 

[voodooless]

im looking similar kind of sound, but better.

Better sound means better speakers, don’t waste your time and money on DACs.

 

[Astoneroad]

Better sound means better speakers, don’t waste your time and money on DACs.

Interesting. So... speakers make sound... DACs don't. I need to write that down somewhere. OP... are you writing this down?

 

[computer-audiophile]

... especially a well engineered DAC like the E30.

I use the e30II, but I don't think it's that well engineered. It sometimes produces pop noises when the operating voltage is switched on. It does not work via Toslink on my TV. These are problems that my various other DACs from hi-fi manufacturers did not have.

 

[JustJones]

E 30 is a kind of DAC i like and im looking similar kind of sound, but better.

Try to find a DAC with one of the AKM chips salvaged from the factory. They are the crispiest DAC chips around.

 

[gescom]

If for many of You guys many DAC,s sound the same.....what are You doing on DAC,s forum ? It,s something strange. I was owner of 4 dacs in my life and every dac was sonicly different. I start to understand, that is strange place )))

 

[gescom]

Try to find a DAC with one of the AKM chips salvaged from the factory. They are the crispiest DAC chips around.

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Do You try to be funny, or......?

 

[Astoneroad]

I use the e30II, but I don't think it's that well designed. It sometimes produces pop noises when the operating voltage is switched on. It does not work via Toslink on my TV. These are problems that my various other DACs from hi-fi manufacturers did not have.

That's a red herring, since the preface for these has been a non broken unit. What you describe, sounds broken, not a sound signature.

 

[JustJones]

Do You try to be funny, or......?

No, I never try to be funny.

 

[gescom]

Aren’t all modern DAC’s harsh, flat, clinical and boring?

… although, your E30 uses a “Velvet Sound” AKM chip (at least the V1 E30), so who really knows…

No, try Topping E70V. It,s not harsh, flat, clinical sound. It,s smooth ( too much, thats problem for me ), V sound, and please don,t tell me there is no different in sound between DAC,S because now i have E30 and E70V ( will return to the shop ), and they are realy different in sound at the same system.

 

[Astoneroad]

I was owner of 4 dacs in my life and every dac was sonicly different. I start to understand, that is strange place )))

This is a very good place to start to understand. You obviously have not yet begun. Yes, this place where measurements say one thing, and your ability to hear beyond human auditory range (is your name Clark Kent?), says another and calls us strange. Someone may post a link to Amir's $1000 challenge to identify your sonic signatures in a double blind test. I'll kick in to help pay you for shifting the current prevailing scientific paradigm.

 

[gescom]

No, I never try to be funny.

No ? Really ?

 

[voodooless]

No, try Topping E70V. It,s not harsh, flat, clinical sound. It,s smooth ( too much, thats problem for me ), V sound, and please don,t tell me there is no different in sound between DAC,S because now i have E30 and E70V ( will return to the shop ), and they are realy different in sound at the same system.

Looks like you have it all figured out then…

 

[Astoneroad]

No, I never try to be funny.

 

[computer-audiophile]

That's a red herring, since the preface for these has been a non broken unit. What you describe, sounds broken, not a sound signature.

Both e30's I bought had these characteristics. The point I referred to was 'well engineered'. I do not agree with that. (I will probably not buy any more Toppings. I have bought 3 different models so far).

 

[gescom]

You can upgrade from the e30 to the e30II (that is what I did)

Do You find big sound differences between E30 and E30 II ?

 

[Ken1951]

The quality of troll really seems to have been on a downward trend line. Either that or they send the young ones here to practice.

 

[computer-audiophile]

Do You find big sound differences between E30 and E30 II ?

Yes!

 

[gescom]

Yes!

Could You tell, what kind of differences ? It looks You are ONLY ONE nice person here. Thanks again man !

 

[gescom]

The quality of troll really seems to have been on a downward trend line. Either that or they send the young ones here to practice.

I don,t understand people like you man.....