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I have a pair of kali lp6 that i use as studio monitors and i want to optimize them for this use, i do not believe that they are flat or uncoloured but i am a audioscience noob, i dont know what step impulse and so on mean. But has anyone done measurements/tests for studio use and come up with a way to optimize them?
 

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I have a pair of kali lp6 that i use as studio monitors and i want to optimize them for this use, i do not believe that they are flat or uncoloured but i am a audioscience noob, i dont know what step impulse and so on mean. But has anyone done measurements/tests for studio use and come up with a way to optimize them?
Get a mic, download REW and measure it in your main listening position, then do EQ to correct
 
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Get a mic, download REW and measure it in your main listening position, then do EQ to correct

Do i need a special mic to do that well? I have a pair of line audio om-1 and a behringer xm8500
 
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Already measured by Amir:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/kali-lp-6-review-studio-monitor.17978/

There are a few members who create EQ profiles based on his provided spinorama data.

The following PEQ profiles work with Equalizer APO for windows.

by maiky
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...eview-studio-monitor.17978/page-2#post-584571

by Pierre https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pierreaubert/spinorama/develop/datas/eq/Kali LP-6/iir-autoeq.txt

by flipflop
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pierreaubert/spinorama/develop/datas/eq/Kali LP-6/iir-flipflop.txt

Of course, room correction is needed on top, to get rid of room modes, so you’ll need a measurement mic.

Would a (pair of) line audio om-1 suffice? If not recommend the cheapest one that is good enough please.
 
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i'm gonna order a mic from Thomann, they do not have the Umik-1. Which of the following ones would be your pick then? https://www.thomann.de/intl/cat_GK_...ter=true&gk=MIME&price-first=0&price-last=200

Another thing, so i got my pair of Line Audio om-1's because i want to come as close as i can to reproduce as my ears heard it, so the more neutral the mic the closer it gets to our hearing. But these measurement mic's are they not even more neutral? How good are they for recording music etc.?
 
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Another thing, so i got my pair of Line Audio om-1's because i want to come as close as i can to reproduce as my ears heard it, so the more neutral the mic the closer it gets to our hearing.
I've always wanted to try Line Audio mics for stereo recording - they seem like great value!

However they may not be ideal for measuring due to their small/short bodies which would like result in undesired reflections causing ripples in the measured high-frequency response.
Also, unlike dedicated measurement microphones they do not come with individual calibration curves. These are especially relevant for situations where you measure with the microphone pointed to the ceiling (common in acoustic measurements), as off-axis microphone response always exhibits some HF roll-off, even for flat on-axis response mics, e.g.:
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You can see this trend in the Omni1 polar plot on the line-audio web as well.

But these measurement mic's are they not even more neutral? How good are they for recording music etc.?
Self-noise of measurement microphones, especially cheap ones, can be relatively high and therefore less-then-ideal for recording purposes. Also, they are all omnidirectional which is not ideal for some recording situations. Lastly, many people like certain types of frequency response coloration on recording mics. :)
But indeed they can in principle be used for recording, just as you would use any other omni mic.

I'd just suggest to look at measurement microphones that are provided with calibration curves for 0 and 90 degrees and are either known for being consistent between units or are calibrated by some third party.
E.g. I ordered my calibrated Dayton EMM-6 from cross-spectrum labs (they are in USA), but it seems that hifi-selbstbau.de provide a similar service in EU.

Good luck!
 

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Get a mic, download REW and measure it in your main listening position, then do EQ to correct

I think it’s a good idea to shove the speakers around and observe how it affects the measurements before doing anything else.
 

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If you've got an OM-1 already, by all means give that a shot first. The thing is specified as 20-20000Hz +/-1dB on-axis and looks to be essentially dead flat up to 5 kHz, with minimal ripple up top. That ought to be more than good enough for most of us mere mortals, in fact even a lot of measurement microphones aren't nearly as good without calibration. Self noise is excellent for such a small capsule (10 mm), too. Yes, it is perhaps not the ideal shape to be sticking right in front of a tweeter, but that's not what required here either.

Assuming a decent mic stand is present as well, what's there already should be plenty sufficient to get started playing with REW, taking first measurements and devising parametric EQ. Recording distance may be debatable, given that an omni mic is rather a worst-case scenario and does not accurately reflect how we hear. Do try several positions from each speaker. Often EQ has to be done per channel.
 
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Recording distance may be debatable, given that an omni mic is rather a worst-case scenario and does not accurately reflect how we hear.

why is an omni a worst-case, which type best reflects how we hear?
 
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