Is the DAC of the bluesound node 2 so bad you can hear it?

[Geertidow]

I know the DAC of the bluesound node 2 is bad.

I have absolutely no clue if the DAC of the Bluesound node 2 is audibly bad in a dedicated listening room.

Furthermore. My sub delay is 2.6 ms. Is that important for listening? The question is that using a BS2 I could use Roon for DSP.

But then no sub delay and a ****** dac.

Currently i have a minidsp flex.

 

[voodooless]

The node has digital outputs, you can just hook it up to the Flex. It should be totally transparent and you can DSP whichever way you like on the Flex.

 

[Geertidow]

I would still like to know

 

[Purité Audio]

You would have to compare it level matched with a really flawless dac design.
Keith

 

[voodooless]

I would still like to know

Hard to say. We have no measurements of the node 2, only node 2i. I don’t know what the difference is? One thing that stood out in the 2i review was the poor SNR. That may be audible, specially with efficient speakers. I doubt you can hear the distortion though.

 

[Geertidow]

And a sub delay of 2.8 ms, is that important.
Reason for asking is that with Roons dsp (i like my sound both with and without DIRAC) I could just use a bluesound alone.

 

[TonyJZX]

"D/A conversion here comes courtesy of a BurrBrown PCM5122 DAC after which a pair of RCAs sends the analogue signal to a downstream amplifier or the 3.5mm headphone socket to (you guessed it) headphones."

so its TI

i think this is less bad than you would think but its trivial to upgrade these days

 

[Geertidow]

"D/A conversion here comes courtesy of a BurrBrown PCM5122 DAC after which a pair of RCAs sends the analogue signal to a downstream amplifier or the 3.5mm headphone socket to (you guessed it) headphones."

so its TI

i think this is less bad than you would think but its trivial to upgrade these days

What does TI mean.
And the sub delay... is that a lot to disregard?

 

[Geertidow]

Allright, non blinded test was pretty clear.
Wether it's the customizable sub delay or the dac, all else equal (PEQ, no dirac) the minidsp flex sounded waaaayyyyy better.

 

[Rja4000]

Allright, non blinded test was pretty clear.
Wether it's the customizable sub delay or the dac, all else equal (PEQ, no dirac) the minidsp flex sounded waaaayyyyy better.

Non blinded test may be very misleading, whatever experienced you are.

 

[Geertidow]

Non blinded test may be very misleading, whatever experienced you are.

Yep, but since I am way too lazy to do it properly, this is all I got

 

[Rja4000]

Yep, but since I am way too lazy to do it properly, this is all I got

As long as you're aware of the limits...
Just don't be surprised if you have the opposite conclusion next time you try

 

[Geertidow]

Well, yeah although I'd say yes to this many a time when it would come to cables, proper measuring dacs, proper meausing amps etc.

I'm actually barely able to tell the difference between mp3 and lossless (very inconvenient since I have a lot of cds).

But yeah sure I'm aware, but have a slight feeling it's actually going to do well in a a/b/x test. We'll never know though