Is Amateur Piano Recording This Hard?

goat76 · May 5, 2023

thecheapseats said:
I do...

the whole thing is fake utoob nonsense... believe what you want... you like fake stuff? - fine with me...
20 takes isn't playing the piano - it's drooling without skill...

not important?... ummm yeah, it kind of is...
it's billed as a piano performance - when in fact it is not... it's cheap eye candy - nothing more...

extraordinarily good - no - it's too wet... I said earlier the piano sound was ok...
there's great - there's 'not great' - ok is the latter...

Why this bullshit comment about my taste, we (as in you and me) have not even talked about anyone’s taste here.

I’m just talking about what I’m convinced has been done for this video and audio recording, andIs see no extraordinary with this production or why she’s not the person who played the piano on the recording.

We can probably search for more videos of her playing, videos that are much more simple production-wise that shows that she actually can play the piano for real.

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

PierreV said:
That's a Yamaha CLP 765. I have one (earlier model, in black).
I could simply load and fake what she plays on it.

In fact, I did that on occasions when I had contractors in the house. They were very impressed.

And, no, I won't record a video for you guys, as I definitely miss some essential misdirection material/fleshware!

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thanks for the heads up on the actual instrument...

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

goat76 said:
Why is this bullshit comment about my taste, we (as in you and me) have not even talked about anyone’s taste here.

I’m just talking about what I’m convinced has been done for this video and audio recording, andIs see no extraordinary with this production or why she’s not the person who played the piano on the recording.

We can probably search for more videos of her playing, videos that are much more simple production-wise that shows that she actually can play the piano for real.

by all means - go look for her playing... have fun!...

goat76 · May 5, 2023

thecheapseats said:
by all means - go look for her playing... have fun!...

Why this attitude, is this some kind of fight for you?

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

goat76 said:
...We can probably search for more videos of her...

any luck yet?... keep trying!...

goat76 · May 5, 2023

thecheapseats said:
any luck yet?... keep trying!...

I don't have time, I’m at work and I‘m personally not interested in her videos. You seem eager for more videos of her though, maybe I find some time later today or tomorrow. We'll see.

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

goat76 said:
...You seem eager for more videos of her...

not at all - you're confused, which explains a lot... that's ok...

AdamG · May 5, 2023

Stop with the nonsense back and forth crap. Take it private.

theREALdotnet · May 5, 2023

Here are two ladies who are definitely not faking it. Sounds too good for amateur recording, anyway.

Hiromi Uehara:

Yuja Wang:

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

theREALdotnet said:
Here are two ladies who are definitely not faking it. Sounds too good for amateur recording, anyway.

Hiromi Uehara:

Yuja Wang:

yep - that's what real pianists look like when they're playing... serious chops...

PierreV · May 5, 2023

As far as the "lady in white" is concerned, she seems OKish on the Bosendorfer (see her video). None of the pieces played on her channel are hard tbh.
There are probably tens of thousands of people around who play at least as well as she does. I see nothing wrong with low to mid-level musicians/artists finding their niche and generating a bit of revenue.

It is so subjective anyway: let's keep in mind that her video initially showed up in this thread as an example of a decent amateur recording of a piano performance.

digitalfrost · May 5, 2023

I want to recommend this documentary. While it's mostly about piano tuning, they also record it and you can see video from within the control room.

As Steinway & Sons’ chief technician and Master Tuner in Vienna, Stefan Knüpfer is dedicated to the unusual task of pairing world-class instruments with world-famous pianists. Featuring Lang Lang, Alfred Brendel, Rudolf Buchbinder and more.

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

digitalfrost said:
I want to recommend this documentary. While it's mostly about piano tuning, they also record it and you can see video from within the control room.

it's a fascinating film if you find the 'rarefied air' of world-class concertizing pianists interesting...

goat76 · May 5, 2023

PierreV said:
As far as the "lady in white" is concerned, she seems OKish on the Bosendorfer (see her video). None of the pieces played on her channel are hard tbh.
There are probably tens of thousands of people around who play at least as well as she does. I see nothing wrong with low to mid-level musicians/artists finding their niche and generating a bit of revenue.

It is so subjective anyway: let's keep in mind that her video initially showed up in this thread as an example of a decent amateur recording of a piano performance.

Exactly, there are tens of thousands of half-decent piano players out there who can play the songs she is playing. If she just wanted to fake it, why not go for something more advanced instead?

As you say, the thread is about amateur piano recordings.

krabapple · May 5, 2023

computer-audiophile said:
I am not quite clear what sound quality can be transmitted in Youtoube videos. I see it mostly only as preview quality not for serious listening. Does anyone know more specific?

Youtube accepts *uploads* of lossless PCM as well as lossy. Playback format really seems to depend vastly on context, with the algorithm having several options to choose from (all lossy AFAIK). See this post for an analysis of one good-sounding video

krabapple · May 5, 2023

thecheapseats said:
I do...

the whole thing is fake utoob nonsense... believe what you want... you like fake stuff? - fine with me...
20 takes isn't playing the piano - it's drooling without skill...

You think Pollini was fake too?

He's famous for edits.

But he certainly can deliver the same astonishing precision when playing live.

I don't know if you listen to recorded popular music since the 1960s but....psssst....most of it is assembled from 'takes' and 'overdubs', rather than complete performances with all musicians present in the room.. And with 'punch ins' after.

computer-audiophile · May 5, 2023

krabapple said:
Youtube accepts *uploads* of lossless PCM as well as lossy. Playback format really seems to depend vastly on context, with the algorithm having several options to choose from (all lossy AFAIK). See this post for an analysis of one good-sounding video

Thank you, I have now learned a bit more. I had not yet discovered 'Stats for Nerds' on YouTube, now I can look there for: opus, format id 251

This is sufficient for HiFi playback imo, if the recording is made professionally.

thecheapseats · May 5, 2023

krabapple said:
You think Pollini was fake too?

He's famous for edits.

But he certainly can deliver the same astonishing precision when playing live.

I don't know if you listen to recorded popular music since the 1960s but....psssst....most of it is assembled from 'takes' and 'overdubs', rather than complete performances with all musicians present in the room.. And with 'punch ins' after.