sai, please publish later a review with EQ settings/recommendations to improve mids/vocals on HE1000 stealth
My plan exactly.
sai, please publish later a review with EQ settings/recommendations to improve mids/vocals on HE1000 stealth
It seems that aftermarket pads reduce the gap between 1000-3000Hz, did you notice any sound/vocal improvements with them? If so, which of these 4 pads sound more neutral/balanced?
If its not in the autoeq database you might either have to wait until the oratory measurements get loaded into autoeq (if they ever do) or use the peq settings on oratory1990 reddit in the Roon peq DSPI am searching the .wav (44,1 + 48) files for convolver using ROON
cannot find them at oratory1990
Please can anybody help me for finding the correct link therefore?
i can only find V2 and SE but no STEALTH
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@sai Thanks for your measurements. So you like Dekoni Fenestrated Sheepskin the most? I only got Elite Hybrid. Are the Fenestrated more thick than Hybrid?
Have you got the HE1000v2 non Stealth btw.? I can't find any measurements for those with Dekoni pads. Anyone knows where to find some? My miniDSP Ears doesn't measure as good as a GRAS.
These are the best headphones I had the pleasure to own. No more doubt, honeymoon phase over.
I am surprised, however, that so little consensus exists in the various postings I read.
Some describe the soundstage as wide as a Susvara (I, among those), others say is intimate.
Some say is brighter than the SE, while I did not notice that during an audition (and it wasn't a Canjam mess...).
Perhaps the only consensus is that the sub-bass (irrelevant for the music I listen to) got a boost vs all previous version.
I found them mostly smooth and almost warm with my Matrix Audio Mini i3.
Even if there was no price difference I would have taken this over the SE.
Consider the fact that narrow peaks in the 8-12kHz range are NOT measured by certain industry standard fixtures but could still be present, they just won't be shown (properly) in those plots.
Play with some filters above 8kHz (not just a shelf but a peak filter as well) and vary the frequency and shave off 7dB or so in those bands). Chances are this removes that what you want gone.
The measurements are fine between 100Hz and 6kHz and that's where you should use them for.
I had this very same thought and in fact I have 2 units (one resulting from the Hifiman upgrade program where I traded my Arya Stealth). I cannot tell them apart, in fact I had to label one of them to avoid confusing them. Same cable and equipment, rapid switch: they sound the very same to me.Given Hifiman's history I won't be surprised if it's just QC or if there're already iterations of the model... who knows?
Here are my current EQ settings (so far the best sound, it feels like the headphone value doubled). Many thanks to Oratory for correctly identifying the treble peaks (5100 Hz and 7900 Hz).
A slight deviation (a tiny dip between 650 and 800 Hz) from the Harman target made a huge difference, the bass clarity became extraordinary on my unit.
Preamp: -3.6 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 220 Hz Gain -2.15 dB Q 1.1
Filter: ON PK Fc 600 Hz Gain 0.8 dB Q 2.1
Filter: ON PK Fc 1000 Hz Gain -0.45 dB Q 3
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.025
The following two filters can lower treble peaks, but I think they are optional since HE1000 Stealth treble quality is so pleasant (but they are important if you feel that some vocals and instruments sound too distant, usually applying them fixes this feeling of too much distance, however sometimes happens exactly the opposite thing and some vocals and instruments can sound more distant).
Filter: ON PK Fc 5100 Hz Gain -0.95 dB Q 5
Filter: ON PK Fc 7900 Hz Gain -1.4 dB Q 4.61
Perhaps on some music genres or records that are notoriusly treble heavy you may find usefull the following High Shelf filter as well:
Filter: ON HS Fc 10000 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 0.71
P.S. I wonder if the sensitivity of HE1000 Stealth may be a little less than the official number. I enabled High Gain on my Sabaj A20d 2023 and I think the sound became a bit more balanced now than it was on Low Gain (even though I never reached even 80% on Low Gain volume).
So feel free to experiment with High Gain.
I don't understand how these measurements correlate with with the frequency graph on dekoni's website???Ok here it is.
Some quick impressions. I am quite surprised by the sound, in a pleasant way. I was worried that the amount of treble and upper treble would be too much for my liking, based on existing measurements by others (especially the ones done using non-standard rigs like the miniDSP EARS etc.) The 12kHz treble dagger is something that I especially disliked about the original HE1000 V2.
But hey, this one is quite well balanced. My subjective impression basically lines up with the measurement. It's still unmistakably on the brighter side, just like other Hifiman eggshaped headphones, but the treble is unfagituing and smooth overall. As you can see the overall contour of the treble follows a downward trend from 4kHz to 14kHz. So while it's elevated over the mids and the bass, there aren't any strong resonances or peaks that cause trouble, at least not to my ears.
Of note, there's a small bump around 4-5kHz that is unseen from the previous gens of the HE1000, which is quite interesting. This feature is observed on the more recent Hifiman models such as the Arya Stealth, Arya Organic, Ananda Nano etc., which most likely suggest some revisions to the driver design. I wager it's something to do with the traces but this is my speculation. They diaphragm might've also become slightly thicker based on the changes in the amount of bass and treble.
Also something worth noting is that my unit of the HE1000 Stealth comes with black cables instead of the previous rubber shielded ones. Could this suggest another revision? I don't know.
View attachment 326797
Link to graph database.
Also measured the Dekoni Hifiman Arya/HE1000 series pads and some aftermarket pad options on these (the right channel only, so you might want to select the R channel of the stock pads measurement for the most accurate comparison).
View attachment 326799
I don't understand how these measurements correlate with with the frequency graph on dekoni's website???
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Dekoni Elite Fenestrated Sheepskin replacement earpads for the HiFiMan Arya
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I mean it looks totally different :-D
Do you have a link for Aliexpress fenestrated sheepskin pads?
could not find one for HE1000
These are better than Oratory's upon first listen, thank you!Here are my current EQ settings (so far the best sound, it feels like the headphone value doubled). Many thanks to Oratory for correctly identifying the treble peaks (5100 Hz and 7900 Hz).
A slight deviation (a tiny dip between 650 and 800 Hz) from the Harman target made a huge difference, the bass clarity became extraordinary on my unit.
Preamp: -3.6 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 25 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 0.5
Filter: ON PK Fc 220 Hz Gain -2.15 dB Q 1.1
Filter: ON PK Fc 600 Hz Gain 0.8 dB Q 2.1
Filter: ON PK Fc 1000 Hz Gain -0.45 dB Q 3
Filter: ON PK Fc 1800 Hz Gain 3.4 dB Q 2.025
The following two filters can lower treble peaks, but I think they are optional since HE1000 Stealth treble quality is so pleasant (but they are important if you feel that some vocals and instruments sound too distant, usually applying them fixes this feeling of too much distance, however sometimes happens exactly the opposite thing and some vocals and instruments can sound more distant).
Filter: ON PK Fc 5100 Hz Gain -0.95 dB Q 5
Filter: ON PK Fc 7900 Hz Gain -1.4 dB Q 4.61
Perhaps on some music genres or records that are notoriusly treble heavy you may find usefull the following High Shelf filter as well:
Filter: ON HS Fc 10000 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 0.71
P.S. I wonder if the sensitivity of HE1000 Stealth may be a little less than the official number. I enabled High Gain on my Sabaj A20d 2023 and I think the sound became a bit more balanced now than it was on Low Gain (even though I never reached even 80% on Low Gain volume).
So feel free to experiment with High Gain.