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Can you really hear the sound details over 20kHz?

pseudoid

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...Useful, I suppose, for driving people into psychosis by having voices that follow only them around.
Exactly, feel it on your teeths.
The bottom line is high level, high frequency tones of any type should only exist in the electrical domain.
"Subliminal Messaging" (perception/persuasion) :: Is this where this topic is heading towards?

I remember the stories about peeps rushing out to buy 57.8% more popcorn during intermission at a theater in FortLee N.J. (Lee Theater on LemoineAve. to be exact!) after being exposed to 3mS (every 5Seconds) images of popcorn (etc.)... 17 years later (1974) FCC banned the practice from the airwaves.
The whole thing was based on a hoax that perpetuates to this day.:eek: See Snopes for myth busting (et al).

Of course, Backmasking is a whole other fun topic!
 
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Gee, I'm not sure about you, but the voices in my head never steer me to buy popcorn. Not even voices, really. More like 3 part harmony lead guitars...
 

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Gee, I'm not sure about you, but the voices in my head never steer me to buy popcorn. Not even voices, really. More like 3 part harmony lead guitars...
See? It works especially if you paid for that '3-part harmony lead guitars'.
Earworms are some of the best (literal+figurative) subliminal messaging examples that work...;)
 

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See? It works especially if you paid for that '3-part harmony lead guitars'.
Earworms are some of the best (literal+figurative) subliminal messaging examples that work...;)
I think that's mostly from a dedicated 10 year effort to rewire my brain with psychedelics. Guess I succeeded...
 

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Well, I may be the exception to the human hearing range, (and vison Left 20/12 Right 20/15). Because I have to say that I am over 40 and I can hear well over 20khz. Plus, I work with tile saws and many loud power tools without ear plugs most of the time (because I forget to use them). Although I can hear over 20khz no problem, I don't think that I could make out a song if it was played above 22khz.
Ok it's getting extremely deep here. Most people can hear 20KHZ at 150db, not at test tone levels. That is the purpose for the chamber and the db level.
A mosquito is 571-832hz not even ON the mhz scale yet. No you cannot hear test tones of 20khz at 40 years old, EVEN with concussive/hyper hearing. There are
serious issues with those people, in the real world of noise. I lived with inserts in my ears for 25 years until my mid 40s. I went to several ear specialist
and spoke with them. ONE in 25 million can hear 20khz at birth. NONE in 8 billion can hear it by age 40 with normal test tone db levels.

Using grinders at 40 years of age put your hearing in the 15-16mhz max on a very good day.

The effect of tones on the human body at extreme levels is a whole different thing. 135+ db at 15 hz can eventually cause deadly results. Puff-suits
on dam turbines is limited to under 10-15 minutes and X number of days per year. Your bones crumble.
20khz & 150 db, that's different. That would leave a neighborhood with constant dogs barking and cats fighting though.

You can be trained to HEAR thing with other noises masking the true issue from several hundred feet though. Especially when hydraulics are involved.

Regards
 
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