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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?

And I don't begrudge them for it, nor feel triggered by their choice, at all. :cool:
Fascinating how long this thread has run. My perspective says these sorts of preferences distill down to temperament and/or age. Some are forward-looking, others prefer the rearview mirror and to reminisce.

Some chase the sun. Others chase the sunset.

I declare it a tie, as I chase the sun one day and the sunset the next.

It’s the essence of the hobby.
 
Truly LOL'd at that one. Thanks!
As a CD collector I've got the same problem - got over 60 CDs since Xmas, didn't have room for what I already had before that.
 
I would be interested in a turntable that has a screen like the Eversolo DMP-A6. It should show the realtime RPMs. Time the record has been playing. Maybe have some way of showing the quality of the record by detecting defects that cause pops and crackle, indicate the amount of warp if there is any. Also VU meters. Every playback device needs VU meters.

Include a remote control with a start button, a pause button that lifts the needle out of the track and back down when unpaused. Buttons to skip forward or back one track, back to the beginning of the side and a stop button that returns the tonearm to the tonearm rest.

Include something like the Puffin that is supposed to be able to cut out some of the pops and crackle.

It should have line preouts for a phono amp, line ins from the phono preamp and final line outs.

It should also include an ADC and a way to capture the output to FLAC files on an external USB drive with the intelligence to separate the tracks automatically.
Why not just complete the square and factor it. Go digital and get it over with.
 
Fascinating how long this thread has run. My perspective says these sorts of preferences distill down to temperament and/or age. Some are forward-looking, others prefer the rearview mirror and to reminisce.

Some chase the sun. Others chase the sunset.

I declare it a tie, as I chase the sun one day and the sunset the next.

It’s the essence of the hobby.
For some, it is a death march.
 
Pretty sure cars are basically physical, not digital (a few controller chips aside). And internal combustion is basically a fire in a box. Fueled by liquids pressed from primordial forests. You can even feel the warmth with your hands. That's analog I reckon. But when we have matter transporters, you can try the analogy again. :p

It is a pretty bizarre dedication to not wanting to understand what other people like and why, with some tinges of conspiracy thinking thrown in.

Sort of boils down to "What isn't a good reason for Me to like x cannot be a good reason for Thee to like x."
 
I hadn't bought a paper book for ages—I do both the tablet and large screen things—but did so just recently (after the first two editions sold out and I realised I'd be pissed/sad if I missed out) and it arrived today as it happens. After reading literally everything on-screen for years, the physicality is very unusual. Light reflects unevenly on the cover and page surfaces, the pages have a mind of their own tension-wise, etc ...

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... I do have some large-format architecture books from the old days that I'm hoping to enjoy again when my life is more zen.
I can see what you mean there, and why the look of a real book would be strange and have some demerit points relative to what you’ve gotten used to.

For me, images on digital screens, have a sort of unsubstantial ephemeral quality.

It’s a sort of (but not exactly) the medium is the message thing for me. Digital images come to me in a medium that I associate with quick gratification, where the amount of information and pictures seems unlimited, and in which I bounce around, taking in titbits of images and information in a sort of restless fashion. And I find it just influences my experience of whatever is presented to me on that platform - on computer screens of one sort of another.


That even happens with images I really love. My friend is a painter, incredibly talented at capturing the nuances of delicate light. I can view his paintings on his website on my computer screen (which is a nice large 5K computer screen), but it’s nothing like being in the gallery and observing the paintings in person. I’m much more absorbed and take more time drinking in the nuances in that condition than I am when it’s just another one of countless possible images on my computer screen.

Likewise, I have a large book of drawings and sketches by the film animator Ray Harryhausen. I can see some of those images online, But it’s just not the same as the tangibility of holding a reproduction of the art in my hands, and being able to examine it.

A lot of this, of course, comes down to one’s relationship to digital life and screens. Some people, certainly more young people, seem pretty comfortable with staring at the screens much of the time. Where are some of us find it salubrious to take breaks from screens and interact with the tangible world.

Too each his/her own of course.
 
I can see what you mean there, and why the look of a real book would be strange and have some demerit points relative to what you’ve gotten used to.

For me, images on digital screens, have a sort of unsubstantial ephemeral quality.

It’s a sort of (but not exactly) the medium is the message thing for me. Digital images come to me in a medium that I associate with quick gratification, where the amount of information and pictures seems unlimited, and in which I bounce around, taking in titbits of images and information in a sort of restless fashion. And I find it just influences my experience of whatever is presented to me on that platform - on computer screens of one sort of another.


That even happens with images I really love. My friend is a painter, incredibly talented at capturing the nuances of delicate light. I can view his paintings on his website on my computer screen (which is a nice large 5K computer screen), but it’s nothing like being in the gallery and observing the paintings in person. I’m much more absorbed and take more time drinking in the nuances in that condition than I am when it’s just another one of countless possible images on my computer screen.

Likewise, I have a large book of drawings and sketches by the film animator Ray Harryhausen. I can see some of those images online, But it’s just not the same as the tangibility of holding a reproduction of the art in my hands, and being able to examine it.

A lot of this, of course, comes down to one’s relationship to digital life and screens. Some people, certainly more young people, seem pretty comfortable with staring at the screens much of the time. Where are some of us find it salubrious to take breaks from screens and interact with the tangible world.

Too each his/her own of course.
Batteries don't run down with a book.
 
They wouldn't need that in daylight or other ambient light.
But the light in my room is dim and I read a lot at night. Mind you, I gave my Kindle to my wife - she uses it all the time - and my volunteer work at the local library enables me to get books for $1 a pop. Have plenty to read now. Attempting to plow my way though "War and Peace" right now. However, I understand why someone would want a Kindle or an iPad for reading in preference to old-fashioned paper and ink.
 
I can see what you mean there, and why the look of a real book would be strange and have some demerit points relative to what you’ve gotten used to.

For me, images on digital screens, have a sort of unsubstantial ephemeral quality.

It’s a sort of (but not exactly) the medium is the message thing for me. Digital images come to me in a medium that I associate with quick gratification, where the amount of information and pictures seems unlimited, and in which I bounce around, taking in titbits of images and information in a sort of restless fashion. And I find it just influences my experience of whatever is presented to me on that platform - on computer screens of one sort of another.

That even happens with images I really love. My friend is a painter, incredibly talented at capturing the nuances of delicate light. I can view his paintings on his website on my computer screen (which is a nice large 5K computer screen), but it’s nothing like being in the gallery and observing the paintings in person. I’m much more absorbed and take more time drinking in the nuances in that condition than I am when it’s just another one of countless possible images on my computer screen.

Likewise, I have a large book of drawings and sketches by the film animator Ray Harryhausen. I can see some of those images online, But it’s just not the same as the tangibility of holding a reproduction of the art in my hands, and being able to examine it.

A lot of this, of course, comes down to one’s relationship to digital life and screens. Some people, certainly more young people, seem pretty comfortable with staring at the screens much of the time. Where are some of us find it salubrious to take breaks from screens and interact with the tangible world.

Too each his/her own of course.

I may have given you the wrong impression of my impression ... I really like those things about that book. The embossed foil text on the fabric cover, the play of light on the matte image pages, the initial stiffness of the pages promising to give way with use, etc.

My life has been way too messy to enjoy and look after books in recent years, but I inherited a grand old bookshelf that I want to restore and make a library room for. As Sydney becomes more topical with climate change, greater extremes of heat and humidity and so on, that means climate control and light control as well—otherwise books deteriorate badly—so a bit of work to achieve. But I'm looking forward to opening oversize/overweight books one day and enjoying their almost impractical tactile pleasures with no sense of urgency or utilitarian purpose, along with memories of reading and picture-books as a child. I imagine some people enjoy their records like that. :)
 
umm...maybe we need a can anybody explain the paper renaissance? thread.
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(just a couple of the infestations here)

Dang things reproduce like cockroaches.

I blame things like this.
And what lame, self-deceiving hipster excuse are you going to give for actually owning and enjoying books when the anti-analogue book forces come to re-educate you?
 
I may have given you the wrong impression of my impression ... I really like those things about that book. The embossed foil text on the fabric cover, the play of light on the matte image pages, the initial stiffness of the pages promising to give way with use, etc.

My life has been way too messy to enjoy and look after books in recent years, but I inherited a grand old bookshelf that I want to restore and make a library room for. As Sydney becomes more topical with climate change, greater extremes of heat and humidity and so on, that means climate control and light control as well—otherwise books deteriorate badly—so a bit of work to achieve. But I'm looking forward to opening oversize/overweight books one day and enjoying their almost impractical tactile pleasures with no sense of urgency or utilitarian purpose, along with memories of reading and picture-books as a child. I imagine some people enjoy their records like that. :)
I still love paper books, but I try to practice "read and release," with some rare exceptions.

It makes moving easier!

Wine and records are enough work as it is.
 
but it’s nothing like being in the gallery and observing the paintings in person. I’m much more absorbed and take more time drinking in the nuances in that condition than I am when it’s just another one of countless possible images on my computer screen.
Photos, whether displayed on paper or a screen can not capture all the details and colors of a painting. Take it a step further.... go look at a "real" flower in a garden, whether painted or photographed the details, especially the colors, are not even close.
 
I still love paper books, but I try to practice "read and release," with some rare exceptions.

It makes moving easier!

Wine and records are enough work as it is.

Haha, learning what and when is "enough" is probably a profound life skill. I'm putting it on my list.
 
C'mon everyone, surely we can talk past each other until page 400!
umm...maybe we need a can anybody explain the paper renaissance? thread.
:oops:;):cool::facepalm:



(just a couple of the infestations here)

Dang things reproduce like cockroaches.

I blame things like this.
Miriam Wolf can explain the paper renaissance: Readers retain and process at a deeper level print that appears on paper over print on screens. The results of many exhaustive studies can be found in Proust and the Squid and Reader come Home, whicih appear in codex form. Those conclusions are analogous to what vinyl lovers are saying.
 
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