Big TV and impact on sound

[kolestonin]

Speakers are Monitor Audio Silver 500 7G and the distance between them is 2,20cm. Distance from wall is 46cm.

I plan buying a big TV and while an 85’’ would make more sense given the viewing distance is 3,6m, I have concerns regarding the impact on sound. An 85’’ TV is 1,9m and that will bring it really close to the speakers. I also think it might be aesthetically overwhelming, or even having light reflections on the gloss of my speakers, but what I would like to know is if sound reflections to the screen can also be a problem.

Should I consider the 1,66 long 75’’? Or it will make no difference?

Maybe a projector, as their screen materials are more sound absorbing, is a better idea sound wise?

I would like to keep the speakers at current 2,20cm. I could put them a bit further away, but I don’t think I can do more than 2,30cm.

Reason I want to buy a bigger is TV is cause with my current setup I pass most of the time as can be seen in picture 2, with the TV acting as a sound barrier for my left speaker.

 

[staticV3]

I have concerns regarding the impact on sound.

Could you wall-mount the TV? That would minimize the impact on sound.

Maybe a projector, as their screen materials are more sound absorbing, is a better idea sound wise?

Projectors quickly fall apart in image quality when sunlight or artificial light bleeds into the room, so keep that in mind.

 

[jeffaegrim]

Negligible impact, I‘d say. All my systems had a large TV incorporated in them & the quality of the measurements/sound I achieved in my setups depended on entirely different factors than the presence/absence of said TV between the speakers. Several friends also have TVs in their audio setups - same experience.

I recommend buying the biggest OLED you can afford and second the advice of wall mounting it if possible.

 

[kolestonin]

Yes, the TV will be wall mounted.

 

[klettermann]

This works great for me. TV 85", isn't wall mounted but still only about 6" from rear wall. Rooms dimensions, MLP,and positioning are such that the TV fills in nicely between speakers. Audio is combined 2.2 for audio and 7.2.1 for video. Front panel speakers are shared, though respective subs are not. There are large ASC bass traps hidden behind panel speakers. The room has some acoustical issues that I'm working on, but it still sounds terrific. There aren't any obvious problems from the TV. Cheers,

 

[kolestonin]

I bought the TV and I managed to use an old TV stand I had from my sim racing hobby era which gives a nice result aesthetic and usage wise.
In my opinion the TV has a negative impact on sound quality though, but this is most probably because I am a high ocd individual and even the minimum doubt of imperfection when it's about my hobby can torture me. After all main reason behind this TV purchase were....my speakers. Most people buy a big TV so to enjoy their films or videogames on a bigger screen, and I bought a bigger TV so to be able to put it on the wall and have the sound of my speakers traveling in my room without obstacles. You might tell this was an non rational or even stupid purchase, but I need to be sincere with you. And I am pretty sure the TV will end up on the wall sooner or later, just to 'gain' these 10 more cm for peace of mind reasons.

I am using the TV with my pc 95% of the time and therefore the sound is coming from my speakers. I would like to use my speakers even when I use the smart features so to watch netflix or amazon tv though. Is there any way I can connect the device with my speakers? My equipment is the following:
windows 11 pc>topping e30>topping pre90>arthur 3409/N2

Sound related ports of my TV(TCL 85C855):
4 x HDMI 2.1 (HDCP 2.2)
1 x optical digital audio output
HDMI eARC/ARC : HDMI 4

 

[kyuu]

Looks like you should be able to connect your TV to the Topping E30 via optical. Presumably you're using USB for the PC?

The TV really should not have much impact, though of course it is an acoustically reflective surface (but so is the wall behind it). I would turn your OCD into something more constructive by buying a measurement microphone and learning to use REW so you can measure what, if any, impact the TV is having instead of just worrying about it.

 

[staticV3]

I would like to use my speakers even when I use the smart features so to watch netflix or amazon tv though. Is there any way I can connect the device with my speakers?

You can either do PC->HDMI->TV->Toslink->E30 and route all audio through the TV, or you can do PC->USB->E30 and TV->Toslink->E30 and manually switch inputs using the E30 remote.

 

[kolestonin]

Looks like you should be able to connect your TV to the Topping E30 via optical. Presumably you're using USB for the PC?

The TV really should not have much impact, though of course it is an acoustically reflective surface (but so is the wall behind it). I would turn your OCD into something more constructive by buying a measurement microphone and learning to use REW so you can measure what, if any, impact the TV is having instead of just worrying about it.

I’m using USB for the PC, and I also have a UMIK1 microphone, so I can install REW.
Given that any impact on sound quality will likely be minimal, do you think it could be measured and identified by someone who knows how to interpret the results? Also, would this process require removing the TV for "before" and "after" comparisons, or can it be done without moving the TV?

You can either do PC->HDMI->TV->Toslink->E30 and route all audio through the TV, or you can do PC->USB->E30 and TV->Toslink->E30 and manually switch inputs using the E30 remote.

I understand that both methods require the PC to be turned on, even if I'm watching Netflix via the smart menu on my TV. This isn't an issue, but I'm asking to fully understand how it works.

1. PC → HDMI → TV → Toslink → E30
   For this method, I would need to have my PC on and change the sound settings in Windows before switching to the smart menu of my TV, correct?
2. PC → USB → E30 and TV → Toslink → E30
   In this case, I would also need to have my PC on, but I could simply switch inputs using the E30 remote, right?

So, if I understand correctly:

• The first method requires two extra cables (HDMI and Toslink).
• The second method only needs one additional cable (Toslink), but I’ll need an extra remote (the E30 remote, since I currently only use the pre90 remote).

Lastly, are both methods offering the same sound quality?

 

[staticV3]

I understand that both methods require the PC to be turned on, even if I'm watching Netflix via the smart menu on my TV

No. With PC->HDMI->TV->Toslink->E30 you can use the DAC regardless of whether the PC is turned on.

PC → HDMI → TV → Toslink → E30
For this method, I would need to have my PC on and change the sound settings in Windows before switching to the smart menu of my TV, correct?

Incorrect.

When you set the TV to HDMI input, the PC will play. When you launch the TV's native Netflix App, it will play. You can keep the PC turned off.

PC → USB → E30 and TV → Toslink → E30
In this case, I would also need to have my PC on, but I could simply switch inputs using the E30 remote, right?

Again, you would not need to have your PC on.

Lastly, are both methods offering the same sound quality?

Method two enables bit-exact playback from your PC, whereas method one will have your TV resample all audio, both internal and from the PC, to 48kHz.

 

[RayDunzl]

Consider a wall mount with extender if you haven't.

Examples:

Mount-It! Long Arm TV Mount (MI-392) - 36-inch Extension

FORGING MOUNT Long Extension TV Mount - 43 inch extension

Or similar.

Close to the wall or pull it out and angle toward your playseat.