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AsciLab speakers are about to launch

f6h7d6s said:
I am strictly interested in fully analog studio monitors because i don't want any dsp-inducted latency at all.
If i would do only mixing duties with these monitors i would't mind about latency, but i want a pair of speakers that can be used also for live playing/recording/tracking, therefore i don't want a "near zero" latency dsp studio monitor, I WANT A ZERO LATENCY STUDIO MONITOR, and i don't give a s** if a few ms of latency are almost impossible to hear, i don't want any f** latency when i'm playing or tracking and this is it.
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Even with a fully analog system you have latency. No system will ever have "ZERO LATENCY", because of that pesky thing called physics......
 
f6h7d6s said:
Yes having someone pretending teach me things not requested is right what i was looking for here.
And for the records your statement "Even with a fully analog system you have latency. No system will ever have "ZERO LATENCY", because of that pesky thing called physics......" doesn't make any sense anyways.
talking about DSP-inducted latency is a thing, talking about latency inducted from physics in a full analog chain is just pretending to be pesky
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Trust me, I wasn't trying to teach you anything!
 
f6h7d6s said:
Yes having someone pretending teach me things not requested is right what i was looking for here.
And for the records your statement "Even with a fully analog system you have latency. No system will ever have "ZERO LATENCY", because of that pesky thing called physics......" doesn't make any sense anyways.
talking about DSP-inducted latency is a thing, talking about latency inducted from physics in a full analog chain is just pretending to be pesky
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Your opening gambit was a little fraught. Perhaps dial back the tension a little and accept that in a forum like this you will get responses that dont 100% align with what you want to hear (or directly answer what you ask).

Take what you want from here but the spiky approach rarely works well.
 
f6h7d6s said:
i was just waiting for some mr obvious like you in the comments
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I dont get it.
If you are allready so knowledgable, how come you need to ask about amps for Ascilabs speakers? Amir has written dozens of reviews, there are many suitable amps - look up amp reviews on ASR. Does not take much to work out which ones will be suitable
 
AudioJester said:
I dont get it.
If you are allready so knowledgable, how come you need to ask about amps for Ascilabs speakers? Amir has written dozens of reviews, there are many suitable amps - look up amp reviews on ASR. Does not take much to work out which ones will be suitable
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Yes but does Amir measure latency?
PAY ATTENTION!!!
 
f6h7d6s said:
most have several ms with linear phase configurations, about 1 ms with minimum phase config is a different thing.
even 3-4ms are pretty inaudible with (almost) all the practical purposes, but that's not what i'm saying, as i already said if i wanted a dsp equipped studio speaker with minimum latency there are already plenty of other options i would consider, but again: that's not the case here, i said i am looking for a zero latency therefore full analog studio speaker, options are limited into that specific segment and therefore i was complimenting Ascilab for its passive options, then if you sieberg audio needed the urge to enter into the discussion only to defend dsp equipped monitors i don't know what to say if not what i already said multiple times here: dsp equipped monitors are not what i'm looking for right now!
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My apologies for entering your discussion.
 
kharan said:
Do you have the information behind a non-disclosure agreement and you cannot reveal the number or do you not have the information?
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I do not have formal statistics, but it has been discussed. I have also used these amps since 2020 in our products, so I am starting to get some first hand data.

So far I haven't seen any evidence of longevity problems. I think I've had three amps fail, all were due to the internal surge arresters across the main filter caps being triggered. In other words the amps didn't die by themselves, but were subject to external power surges. The source of the surge for one of them was unclear, the other two was due to a thunderstorm (both failed at the same time at the same customer).

And to also counter the "If it breaks I have to throw it away": All three amps were repaired (one by Hypex and two locally), and is working just fine.

So zero amps failing without any external event. And zero amps thrown away.
 
sigbergaudio said:
I do not have formal statistics, but it has been discussed. I have also used these amps since 2020 in our products, so I am starting to get some first hand data.

So far I haven't seen any evidence of longevity problems. I think I've had three amps fail, all were due to the internal surge arresters across the main filter caps being triggered. In other words the amps didn't die by themselves, but were subject to external power surges. The source of the surge for one of them was unclear, the other two was due to a thunderstorm (both failed at the same time at the same customer).

And to also counter the "If it breaks I have to throw it away": All three amps were repaired (one by Hypex and two locally), and is working just fine.

So zero amps failing without any external event. And zero amps thrown away.
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Good yo know, thanks!
 
f6h7d6sbis said:
this says a lot about you and the regular members
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Err … if you don’t consider yourself as regular member, then why are u here?
 
I guess the main question here is when is AsciLab going to do a world wide launch of its products. I was hearing about September in July and December in October, but still no availability. If it's taking longer than expected, that's probably to be expected, but can we get a realistic timeline sometime soon?
 
Since it appears to be their first world wide launch there's a good chance they've simply underestimated what's involved, and probably thought the previous estimates were realistic. Treat any further estimates on the same basis - further currently-unknown problems may yet emerge.
 
The other issue is their products are so damn good they can not keep up with local demand.... let alone expanding world wide
 
Ascilab is cooking an MTM model.

Sound power looks a bit better than the classic two way. It is a much larger speaker though.

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