Your statement: "they should by now have full data and reviews published so that they don't face significant returns and consumers hassle of returns."
Why should they by now have full data and reviews published?
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Arendal 1528 high end speakers
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Your statement: "they should by now have full data and reviews published so that they don't face significant returns and consumers hassle of returns."
Why should they by now have full data and reviews published?
Shimrra Jamaane
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Audioholics will in all likelihood have a detailed written review of at least the monitors or bookshelves in December. How well that translates to how well the towers perform is beyond my understanding
Because that is what is called a (complete) product launch. And why by now they should not have the full data and reviews published?
I kind of support @sigbergaudio audio. I think for *this* website, yes...measurements. But for most real buyers...no...
There are several reviews available, not sure it's fair to expect tons of reviews before the product has even started to ship to normal customers. What kind of data they choose to release (now or later) is of course entirely up to them. Lots of succesful manufacturers don't release any measurements whatsoever, apparently without suffering from a lot of returns.
Well, then I guess I am not fair. And the right wording would be "previews" instead or reviews?
I don't have insight into return rates of the successful manufacturers you note, and can't even guess what you mean by "successful", but at the same time can't really endorse the opaque practice of not releasing any measurements whatsoever.
E.g. when one buys a Porsche, they would have made sure their customers know pretty much everything about that model. Arendal apparently wants to be a Porsche, or am I mistaken?
I don't have insight into return rates of the successful manufacturers you note, and can't even guess what you mean by "successful", but at the same time can't really endorse the opaque practice of not releasing any measurements whatsoever.
E.g. when one buys a Porsche, they would have made sure their customers know pretty much everything about that model. Arendal apparently wants to be a Porsche, or am I mistaken?
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Considering their purely online approach, Polestar may be a closer comparison than Porsche.
I'm honestly intrigued to see more data on the speakers. They seem to be, on paper, something very able to compete and even outmatch speakers like Perlisten or KEF in the references levels at a similar or slightly lower price. And that is no small thing if that is the case.
For example, I haven't seen many 20 to 20K bookshelves, and these could be the case.
That said, I'm a sucker for anything designed in Scandinavia, so that is also an extra element to pick my curiosity.
They should have some in-house data taken already, but sadly they are still catering to audiophile lala-land consumers with this product launch. (strange for an online-sales company. Based on previous products, they know a thing or two about sound reproduction). I blame the marketing department
ANSI/CTA-2034-A is here to stay. Informed sound enthusiasts have all read at least Toole's book.
I don't seem to be able to find anything about 1528 series...
seeing videos of people having hands on this serie,I wonder if either the reviewers don't know how to do it or they are asked/paid NOT to do the measurement.either way I am super confused.....
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Gene has written in Audioholics that James Larson will be, indeed, measuring the speakers. If I remember correctly, he´ll be testing the monitors and bookshelves, but don´t quote me on that with absolute certainty.
It is a process that takes time, so all we can do is be patient. Regardless of how Arendal works with Audioholics, James Larson´s procedures are honest, scientific and trackeable, so no second thoughts on his data.
Thank you..will look forward to it.....
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Sorry, didn't mean to confuse. I am only stating that James and AH has done testing of nearly every other Arendal line sans the 1528 and their measurements track closely with the manufacturer. SoundStage Network is doing full anechoic testing of the 1528 Tower 8s at the NRC in Canada: https://www.instagram.com/soundstagenetwork/reel/DA0sU9BO_0u/Thank you..will look forward to it.....
Hopefully, they'll have a review soon.
I appreciate your information.....thank you!
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Ok, now I’m beginning to get agitated over the vacuum of information. I have to assume there is some embargo in place because we ought to have seen something else by now.
There are plenty of speakers with transparent reviews and measurements out there calling your name if there is upgrade itch. At this price range for the larger speakers they are rubbing shoulders with Perlisten (R7t/S7c) and Revel (328be/426C Be) - to name some of them. So wish Arendal good luck with their top product as benchmarks have been set pretty high.
I do remember Amin's 328 review which was very unusual - as you could feel love in the air instead of pure numbers and grind as in most reviews. Same for Audioholics 226be/426C be review that was exceptional. Perlistens might not invoke such emotions, but they are ruler flat and almost flawless. Both of them can go very loud and clear, so to be seen what 1528 would have on top of them for twice or more the weight.
If Arendal thinks that we got what we needed, than that is what counts. Their product, their terms. As I understand, there might be full review coming from Audioholics on the smaller speakers though. From initial enthusiasm, I am now realistically considering that there is no objective basis for even wanting to upgrade to the big towers/center.
And yeah, to emphasize again, you can't tilt the 80kg $5K center unless you come up with your own clever way to do so
. Like my wife was helping them design the center with a specific requirement to make a cardinal design mistake that just won't pass with sophisticated users.
I do remember Amin's 328 review which was very unusual - as you could feel love in the air instead of pure numbers and grind as in most reviews. Same for Audioholics 226be/426C be review that was exceptional. Perlistens might not invoke such emotions, but they are ruler flat and almost flawless. Both of them can go very loud and clear, so to be seen what 1528 would have on top of them for twice or more the weight.
If Arendal thinks that we got what we needed, than that is what counts. Their product, their terms. As I understand, there might be full review coming from Audioholics on the smaller speakers though. From initial enthusiasm, I am now realistically considering that there is no objective basis for even wanting to upgrade to the big towers/center.
And yeah, to emphasize again, you can't tilt the 80kg $5K center unless you come up with your own clever way to do so
. Like my wife was helping them design the center with a specific requirement to make a cardinal design mistake that just won't pass with sophisticated users.Shimrra Jamaane
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I’m likely on a bit of an island but I think the Perlisten R series is kind of ugly. The S series is much prettier but of course is in an entirely different price category. So the 1523s are way more interesting for me.
Well, I think that design of both R and S series is sufficiently close so that one could call them "ugly" if that is what one's preferences are. Revels are also not fashion or Instagram models. But IMO Arenals 1528 are also in the same general category, with even fewer finishes to choose from and some additional issues (like center tilting). Unless I hear otherwise, I will not want to pollute my space with the additional bulk that might not be warranted.
BTW - unless you are planning to run Arendals full range, and if they prove to have any marginal difference compared to competition, then even based on current information the answer is no. With 80hz crossover, these are IMO just speakers that waste room and space and don't really look that great doing it.
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Well the thing about the R series versus the S series is that the S series drivers look way better. Though regardless I admit it’s a dumb thing on my part. But I really like the look of the 1528, so long as function follows form.
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Is that in lieu of measurements?
