Hello, I appreciate that! I've interacted briefly with Amir and passed his info to our Marketing Team who is responsible for the handling of product reviews. I can only push/advise, but it's ultimately their decision who they send product to. I did let Amir know to reach out to our closest Dealer to him and try to work something out through that channel if possible. And that can all depend on whether he has any relationships with, or how his relationship may be with any of our Dealers near where he's located. I just want to be able to provide what added support I can give here in the field.
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Hello, I appreciate that! I've interacted briefly with Amir and passed his info to our Marketing Team who is responsible for the handling of product reviews. I can only push/advise, but it's ultimately their decision who they send product to. I did let Amir know to reach out to our closest Dealer to him and try to work something out through that channel if possible. And that can all depend on whether he has any relationships with, or how his relationship may be with any of our Dealers near where he's located. I just want to be able to provide what added support I can give here in the field.
tvrgeek
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I hope they do not ignore the low power end. I have a 310 and love it. For my small movie room, I don't need bigger amps. I actually only need 5. Don't do zones a jillion surrounds. 5.1 is all. I do wish it did all the handshake quicker. I should start saving up as mine is getting long on tooth. Maybe before it starts humming right along with the music I can save up enough! ARC blows the doors off Audessy IMHO. One of my better purchases if I do say so.
They can be preordered through any one of our Authorized Dealers right now. I'm not at liberty to discuss details regarding ship dates or anything else regarding these new products at this time, but all the Product Info will be released October 30th on our website.
tvrgeek
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I suggest you not judge an entire product based on the kind of transformer it has. There is nothing magic about a toroidal transformer. Let the engineers do their job. Results matter.
You're right. The results are fucking terrible.... 1120 vs. the 520. The old 710 series for comparison. Same site testing the 1120 here. All the units with the toroidal supply perform quite well by AVR standards; the one without it is one of the worst amplifiers ever tested by ASR.
The toroidal power supply is specifically attributed to only the 1130 on the leaked slides, so it is practically a given the others are using something inferior. "Let the engineers do their job" is quite rich, you don't know that more people than just engineers are involved with designing, building and selling AVRs? It was no secret back in the day, the low end MRX models cannibalized the sales of the more expensive ones... that's why they are now intentionally gimped, to funnel people upwards to the more expensive, higher margin units.
Anything else?
A contrarian view on the ubiquitous Toroidal Transformer ....
http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/maxdb/maxdb071998.htm
If you're lazy here is the conclusion ...
nahhh
http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/maxdb/maxdb071998.htm
If you're lazy here is the conclusion ...
nahhh
tvrgeek
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Yes, accounting and marketing have their say. But you are taking one aspect and applying it to the entire design. I think your "intentionally gimped" is misconstrued as what was necessary to meet a price point and feature set. Otherwise, it would require a conspiracy across al manufactures in illegal anti-trust practices. If all but one played, that one could steal the entire market.
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What would serve me best is a 5 series with 7 channels and the ability to turn off the actual amps. I’d love a pre pro, but it would be far more than I need....and likely more than I can afford. What would be really great would be two levels of pre pro...One for the 15+ channel junkies and one for the rest of us 5 to 7 channel folk. Dare to dream. That said, I run my 510 with a Rotel 1095 with no complaints.
Nice to have you here cbrents. As always, and assuming this turns into an owner’s thread, I’m sure there are going to be lots of questions and concerns down the road. Your presence will be much appreciated.
Nice to have you here cbrents. As always, and assuming this turns into an owner’s thread, I’m sure there are going to be lots of questions and concerns down the road. Your presence will be much appreciated.
flyzipper
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From another forum... high level marketing details for AVM 90 and AVM 70...
Looking forward to hearing about the ARC improvements which will obviously be needed to support 4 independent subwoofer outputs.
(this would be a very expensive way to retire my miniDSP 2x4HD which is currently used for that purpose)
Looking forward to hearing about the ARC improvements which will obviously be needed to support 4 independent subwoofer outputs.
(this would be a very expensive way to retire my miniDSP 2x4HD which is currently used for that purpose)
valerianf
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Does th MRX 740 have a toroidal transformer?
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flyzipper
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These are replacements to the AVM 60 pre/pro, not AV receivers, so I'd expect them both to be even more expensive than the new MRX 1140.
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Looks like the new AVM series will also have a facelift from the aging AVM60 to match the STR and the new MRX units.
Pricing should be interesting. My guess is AVM 70 at $3500 and AVM 90 at $4500-$5000. They would be over-priced at that level. But a bargain relative to the NAD.
The above may seem comparable to Rotel, Monoprice HTP-1, etc but with much higher margins, since they don't have to price in the hefty Dirac Live license.
Will have to wait and see.
Pricing should be interesting. My guess is AVM 70 at $3500 and AVM 90 at $4500-$5000. They would be over-priced at that level. But a bargain relative to the NAD.
The above may seem comparable to Rotel, Monoprice HTP-1, etc but with much higher margins, since they don't have to price in the hefty Dirac Live license.
Will have to wait and see.
flyzipper
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I think you're in the right ballpark with that guess.
My guess... the AVM 70 will be priced above the MRX 1140 (which would be different than past-gen where the AVM 60 retailed for less than the MRX 1120).
Reasoning... the new MRX x40 series uses the AKM AK4458VN, while the AVM 70 uses the AKM AK4490EQ and the AVM 90 uses the AKM AK4499EQ, so I suspect they'll position the AVM units as "ultra premium" options in their line-up.
(current retail pricing in $CDN - AVM 60 - $3299, MRX 1120 - $3599, MRX 720 $2599, MRX 520 - $1699)
Yeah I only need a 7.2 av pre, with proper subwoofer dual sub eq...don't need 16 channel
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Looks like we ain’t where the money is amigo.
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Yeah, though it's just a refresh of the Z, I preordered mine so I should be in the first batch.
The Anthem looks nice.
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Don't want to take this too off-topic, but...
The Sony system is only technically superior in continuous autofocus tracking. In picture quality (especially color, and if you do astro and can't live with Sony "star eater" algorithms), lenses/optical performance (Sony's small mount is permanently handicapped compared to the larger Z), and ergonomics, the Nikon wins hands down. Even Sony users admit this.
Nice. Bye bye room modes
