Sure, M50x have bass rumble. That same thunder also replaces the mids, as the M50x doesn't have them. Perhaps the most V-shaped wired headphone I've heard, with lots of bass and treble and nothing else.
My vote is for the Meze 99 Noir or Neo. Rich bass that bleeds into the mids, no doubt, but there still are mids and highs present. The highs roll off slightly while still having some detail, so you can listen to these all day without treble fatigue. $200.
Have you LISTENED extensively to both of the cans in question, or are you just throwing frequency curves at me as the final arbiter? I have OWNED and listened to both extensively, and the 99 Classics -- while having a consumer-oriented, V-shaped signature like the M50x -- are a FAR better headphone because the bass only bloats a bit and because there is far greater imaging, separation, detail and soundstage than the M50x. Plus, the 99 Classics are FAR more comfortable than the M50x and their thin earpads and shallow cups.
I can only speak to the meze and the m50 BT but both of those are crap.Have you LISTENED extensively to both of the cans in question, or are you just throwing frequency curves at me as the final arbiter? I have OWNED and listened to both extensively, and the 99 Classics -- while having a consumer-oriented, V-shaped signature like the M50x -- are a FAR better headphone because the bass only bloats a bit and because there is far greater imaging, separation and soundstage than the M50x. Plus, the 99 Classics are FAR more comfortable than the M50x and their thin earpads and shallow cups.
Imaging, separation, soundstage and comfort -- you know, all of the vital parameters that your curve doesn't show.
The Meze feature basically a refined V-shaped consumer sound signature with treble that rolls off instead of piercing the eardrums with a grainy mess like the M50x. But yeah, both are very bassy cans.I can only speak to the meze and the m50 BT but both of those are crap.
A treble peak makes it non-neutral. And I know, I have tried them for 2 weeks. At first it gives the impression of absolutely demolishing my AKG 271 but the 560s adds its signature to everything pretty much which ended up with listening fatigue.HD 560s are flat and neutral as hell. Analytical, but not exactly what I would call "fun," unless the treble peak creates a brightness that you like.
Good point. Yeah, I was a bit underwhelmed by the HD 560s. The treble peak hit me right at the wrong spot, and the analytical nature of the rest of the frequency curve made the headphone a bit boring.A treble peak makes it non-neutral. And I know, I have tried them for 2 weeks. At first it gives the impression of absolutely demolishing my AKG 271 but the 560s adds its signature to everything pretty much which ended up with listening fatigue.
I would classify them as "fun" headphones, but neutral they ain't...another example of marketing department being full of it.
Have you LISTENED extensively to both of the cans in question, or are you just throwing frequency curves at me as the final arbiter?
To me it sounds fatty, bassy, hollow and lacks ‘bite’ which are all negative words
Imaging, separation, detail, soundstage and comfort -- all of the vital parameters your curve doesn't show.
Subjectively, you're wrong. I'm selling my Meze 99 Classics because of the excessive bass bloom, even after a swap to Brainwavz Oval Hybrid pads. Those tamed the bass thump and provided my big ears with more comfort, but the bass still bleeds too much into the mids for my taste.The frequency curve adds useful objective context to your subjective review.
Subjectively, you like the Meze 99. Subjectively, here's what someone who has listened to many headphones said about them:
The first production batches of the Meze 99 Classic were quite nicely tuned but later larger pads were used (also at the Neo 99) which had that huge upper bass bump https://www.stereophile.com/content/meze-99-neo-around-ear-sealed-headphones
I had bought both versions and was very disappointed by the newer one and returned it after a week.
Meze 99 Classics are an excellent gateway drug into audiophile headphones for those coming from consumer-oriented tuning such as Sony, Bose and Beats Bluetooth over-ear cans.I also returned a pair of Meze 99 Classics, the bass quality was terrible imo.
That hasn't been my experience with the m50x.lots and lots and lots of subjective opinions
In what way? You think they're good? If so, what other closed-backs under $350 have you heard for comparison? Curious.That hasn't been my experience with the m50x.
Philips X2HR
could you compare it with shp9500 / 9600? does it really justify the double price of shp9500?
I can not, i do not own the SPH9500/9600could you compare it with shp9500 / 9600? does it really justify the double price of shp9500?