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They're 4 inch
sorry
They're 4 inch
Not in the same roomI didn't hear the Genelec, only the KH120. Did you hear them in the same room next to each other and how do they differ?
I posted this already somewhere else here, but the review for the T5V is rhapsodic even in comparison to the KH80:
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I always take these reviews with a pinch of saltthe guy works in an icredible room, with big Neumans, and couldn't believe what came out of the T5Vs. I said it before, they seam to be a myrical
I always take these reviews with a pinch of salt
I didn't like the A7X at all
You definitely need a sub with any 5" woofer monitor and room correction. Without both it is hard or even impossible to judge or mix any electronic music correctly.Many people say the Genelecs 8030 need a sub, especially when producing electronic music. Another option would be the Focal 65 Evo as these go down to 40 Hz @ - 3 dB.
A 6" is very close to an 5" the bass is only a bit deeper same for the listening distance. You also need a subwoofer here.So that would speak for the Kalis LP6.
Thanks, I'm looking since two years now almost and I have been many times in the store(s). Problem is that the speaker stand on different positions and sometimes far too high, so it's completely impossible to make judgements. For instance I didn't like the Kali LP6 at all, cause they sounded muffled. But I think meanwhile the problem was that they were standing far too high (just under the ceiling). I also didn't like the Neumann KH120 as there was some harshness in the tweeter that I didn't like. To be honest the best sounding monitor I heard was the Yahama HS8 and if it was not that heavy and big I would immediately buy it. Currently I'm using Presonus Eris 5 and I think my mixes aren't bad.A 6" is very close to an 5" the bass is only a bit deeper same for the listening distance. You also need a subwoofer here.
A two way 8" can come close to a full range loudspeaker. But especially with electronic music even such a 8" profits a lot from a decent subwoofer.
If the budget is tight you have do make a compromise. A 5" two way with sub is the best price performance spot. Like the Adam AV5 or many other 5" monitors which are (with equalisation) very good speakers for it's price. In many store you can listen to a lot of potential good cheap 5" speaker. I would recommend to do that.
Here you can have a look at preference score especially with sub (and with eq) is interesting.
But the score didn't tells the whole story and listening can help a lot. There are qualities which aren't included in this score e.g. the image a good coaxial speakers can provide. Therefore listening to a few speakers is very helpful.
I like your music. You definitely need a subwoofer and room correction to deal with this kind of music. This would be the first thing I would buy.Thanks, I'm looking since two years now almost and I have been many times in the store(s). Problem is that the speaker stand on different positions and sometimes far too high, so it's completely impossible to make judgements. For instance I didn't like the Kali LP6 at all, cause they sounded muffled. But I think meanwhile the problem was that they were standing far too high (just under the ceiling). I also didn't like the Neumann KH120 as there was some harshness in the tweeter that I didn't like. To be honest the best sounding monitor I heard was the Yahama HS8 and if it was not that heavy and big I would immediately buy it. Currently I'm using Presonus Eris 5 and I think my mixes aren't bad.
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Only thing I'm missing is bass until ~40-50 Hz. (I also have neighbours...) As said there's a strong room mode at 45Hz, so maybe 50 Hz would be fine, the rest is doing the room.
Room correction I currently use (http://drc-fir.sourceforge.net/doc/drc.html). Without it it's a complete mess. My room is also partially treated, but I think with a sub I run into problems as I would need much much more treatment. +I have have neighbours. If a sub only with the option to leave it off. Vertical directivity is a good point as my monitors stand behind a big (180X80 cm) table and I have some cancellation at 800 -1000 Hz. Wasn't aware that the directivity is better for the HS series compared to the other speaker. Is that true?I like your music. You definitely need a subwoofer and room correction to deal with this kind of music. This would be the first thing I would buy.
The Yamaha HS 8 is an unique sounding speaker. You have less room reflections in the mids due to the more narrow directivity in the mids and a very wide and even tweeter directivity which gives you more room and air in this frequency band than almost any other speaker. Maybe one of the smaller Yamahas HS with eq would come closest to the HS8.
Genelec 8030 come closer to the HS8 than Neumann KH120 or Adam AV5 but all four are definitely different no matter how much eq you use.
Your Presonus most likely profits a lot using measurements and an eq. With an eq the tonal characteristic is presumably between Adam AV5 and Neumann KH 120.
If you already have a measurement microphone and room correction the integration of a subwoofer shouldn't be that difficult.Room correction I currently use (http://drc-fir.sourceforge.net/doc/drc.html). Without it it's a complete mess. My room is also partially treated, but I think with a sub I run into problems as I would need much much more treatment. Vertical directivity is a good point as my monitors stand behind a big (180X80 cm) table and I have some cancellation at 800 -1000 Hz. Wasn't aware that the directivity is better for the HS series compared to the other speaker. Is that true?
"Genelec 8030 come closer to the HS8"
You mean tonality wise, but not regarding bass extension?