@March Audio, lovely looking speakers! I don’t see on the order page any indication of whether the price is per speaker or per pair.
Yes, and he states it is solid wood on the web site. But I still want to ask if he can measure any sound difference. I thought some speaker makers liked veneers so they can keep the properties of MDF (maybe that line of reasoning is somewhat an excuse to use cheaper materials).They are clearly solid wood. MDF has no grain through the routing.
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Grain tends to run in one direction in my experience.
Yes, and he states it is solid wood on the web site. But I still want to ask if he can measure any sound difference. I thought some speaker makers liked veneers so they can keep the properties of MDF (maybe that line of reasoning is somewhat an excuse to use cheaper materials).
I agree. I am seriously interested in these. But I will check myself until they are measured on ASR (@amirm any willingness to let these cut in line if @March Audio sends one?)If he can do it with solid timber, I'm all over it. Nothing more beautiful than solid wood. The grain however runs around the entire box- must be a serious chunk of wood. The top must be end-grain...
Amir said he doesn’t want to measure these (the hassle of reviewing a prominent member’s product for sale, he will measure @Rick Sykora‘s speaker project as that is a DIY deal), I think Erin said he is game to measure them though.I agree. I am seriously interested in these. But I will check myself until they are measured on ASR (@amirm any willingness to let these cut in line if @March Audio sends one?)
Huh, I asked why he didn’t use the better measuring (in my view) 34A to start off with, and he said the beryllium one gave a better crossover, maybe he was able to remedy that. And/or the 34A is cheaper, so maybe a profit margin deal.Very nice. I guess I missed it somewhere. What was the reason you went with the aluminum tweeter instead of the beryllium one you were using?
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https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...arch-audio-sointuva-speaker.17162/post-572823@March Audio, lovely looking speakers! I don’t see on the order page any indication of whether the price is per speaker or per pair.
I doubt there would be any measurable difference on such small cabinets. However, I would be more concerned with splitting. Those sides look to be an inch or so thick. I don't know how stable She-Oak is but it would need to be really well seasoned to survive repeated humidity swings of a typical centrally heated house in the northern hemisphere. They are very pretty boxes but I'd be afraid of quickly seeing cracks between the driver cutouts where the box is weakest.But I still want to ask if he can measure any sound difference. I thought some speaker makers liked veneers so they can keep the properties of MDF
The picture on March's website looks to be obviously joined from flat boards.The grain however runs around the entire box- must be a serious chunk of wood. The top must be end-grain
Don't think Bristol Alan is a prominent member anymore, now he's got his own forum maybe he could send a pair of his speakers to Amirm or @hardisj can give them a spin .Amir said he doesn’t want to measure these (the hassle of reviewing a prominent member’s product for sale, he will measure @Rick Sykora‘s speaker project as that is a DIY deal), I think Erin said he is game to measure them though.
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Huh, I asked why he didn’t use the better measuring (in my view) 34A to start off with, and he said the beryllium one gave a better crossover, maybe he was able to remedy that. And/or the 34A is cheaper, so maybe a profit margin deal.
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Thank you.Beautiful finish and look.
So you are using solid block timber, not veneer and no MDF.
Your concerns are unfounded, the wood is quite stable and strong. We also have about 35 deg C temp swings in Albany Australia over winter to summerI doubt there would be any measurable difference on such small cabinets. However, I would be more concerned with splitting. Those sides look to be an inch or so thick. I don't know how stable She-Oak is but it would need to be really well seasoned to survive repeated humidity swings of a typical centrally heated house in the northern hemisphere. They are very pretty boxes but I'd be afraid of quickly seeing cracks between the driver cutouts where the box is weakest.
Hi @Alexanderc@March Audio, lovely looking speakers! I don’t see on the order page any indication of whether the price is per speaker or per pair.
Huh, I asked why he didn’t use the better measuring (in my view) 34A to start off with, and he said the beryllium one gave a better crossover, maybe he was able to remedy that. And/or the 34A is cheaper, so maybe a profit margin deal.
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This is what I see. Quantity 1 speaker or quantity 1 pair? I’m just trying to save you some trouble when people get wind these are availableHi @Alexanderc
There is an "Order Now" link button on the product page plus you can go straight to the shop page
https://www.marchaudio.net.au/product-page/sointuva-speaker
However I haven't optimised the mobile page and it appears a little mixed up compared to the desktop page. I will fix it tomorrow.
Yep you are right I will update it tomorrow to indicate 1 pair, plus put a note that they can be purchased individually (centre speakers)This is what I see. Quantity 1 speaker or quantity 1 pair? I’m just trying to save you some trouble when people get wind these are available View attachment 115445
Hi @Thomas savageDon't think Bristol Alan is a prominent member anymore, now he's got his own forum maybe he could send a pair of his speakers to Amirm or @hardisj can give them a spin .
I do hope you are right. I know you Australians are blessed with some exceptionally fine woods but they are not magic! All woods move no matter how stable they are if the conditions are right (or wrong, depending how you look at it). The properties of the She-Oak look to be similar to many of the woods used to build guitars for example (my other hobby is building acoustic, and occasionally electric, guitars) and I know from experience that they will move at the most inopportune moment however good your prep has been.Your concerns are unfounded, the wood is quite stable and strong.
As I'm sure you know it's not so much the temperature but the relative humidity that is the problem. Just today I have had a 40% difference in relative humidity in my house from morning to afternoon and I dare not open any of my guitar cases ...We also have 35 to 40 deg C temp swings in Albany over winter to summer
Yep we remedied that
The T34A indeed has better directivity above 10kHz.
HiI do hope you are right. I know you Australians are blessed with some exceptionally fine woods but they are not magic! All woods move no matter how stable they are if the conditions are right (or wrong, depending how you look at it). The properties of the She-Oak look to be similar to many of the woods used to build guitars for example (my other hobby is building acoustic, and occasionally electric, guitars) and I know from experience that they will move at the most inopportune moment however good your prep has been.
As I'm sure you know it's not so much the temperature but the relative humidity that is the problem. Just today I have had a 40% difference in relative humidity in my house from morning to afternoon and I dare not open any of my guitar cases ...
The problem with a small and extremely stiff box like your speaker cabinets is that if there is any movement in the wood, the box is so stiff that something has to give. And that will almost certainly be those thin sections between the driver holes. I would be looking to strengthen those areas somehow, if only for peace of mind. If it were me I would probably laminate some carbon fibre cloth to tha backside of the front and back baffles.