Oh. ok. You may take a look at omega on that website. Superb low extension. Also i remember that sr 207 has pretty good low extension from innerfidelty.It's about the low frequency drop off and attempts to compensate for that.
Oh. ok. You may take a look at omega on that website. Superb low extension. Also i remember that sr 207 has pretty good low extension from innerfidelty.It's about the low frequency drop off and attempts to compensate for that.
There is quite a bit of discrepancy past 6 kHz between his unit and the one measured by Rtings, so you might find the profile too bright.
Both have some issues in measurements. Oratory's mostly has issues around 5-6k and lacks a bit high frequency extension. Rtings' measurements usually pretty accurate up untill 8khz-10khz and then drops. Only way to eq properly is to use your ears. Best way is to use a reference sound and match them. But it's really hard for most people. This requires a lot of training and experience even some talents. Another way I found that works for many people is to set up a pre eq that makes the frequency response should sound flat across the frequency range then eq the headphone using tone generator. After that turn off the pre eq and tweak a little bit balance afterwards. This method is pretty accurate and is far better than using most measurements. Tho it still needs some training to master. I did this a long time ago, probably can't find the file. I'll try to upload it tomorrow.@flipflop, If you have the time and energy to estimate the EQ filter values based on the Rtings measurements, I would sure like to try them out as well and compare them to oratory's measurements.
Roon EQ user interface seems very easy and intuitive to use. You are right, those settings would only work on Roon, but that would be ok in my work laptop. I haven't decided yet if I will buy the Roon license to my home PC. If I will, then using Roon on my work laptop would make sense. If not, then I will of course try Eq APO.
If that's the case, why there aren't any body talking about it? They simply shouldn't distort at least when not eqed. No matter high spl or not. Many models have superb low frequency extension even. https://www.inexxon.com/stax-übersicht-overview/stax-kopfhörer-headphones/sr-omega/ this website has majority of stax headphones measured. From vintage to newest.
1, Would you please be more specific on the model names. Then I can look a bit deeper into it.As I mentioned it did not apply to all Stax, only some models. I don't have the models at hand since this review was around 15 years ago. Since Innerfidelity started I also looked at some of their models. Both LF extension and distortion vary hugely among Stax models.
That would be the only way to bring down the treble, but it also messes with everything from 1 to 6 kHz. Made you a new profile largely based on the Rtings measurement. It also has less bass.How would you decrease the brightness - just decrease the 2000Hz high shelf filter from the 8dB or do you have to touch all of the treble filters?
1, Would you please be more specific on the model names. Then I can look a bit deeper into it.
2, The LF extension is solely depending on the acoustic design of the housing. The driver itself can produce same low frequency as planars.
3, Distortion is basically depending on the low extension. The calculation is the harmonics divided by the fundamental. So the absolute amplitude of the distortion harmonics aren't high.
4, If the distortion is very audible it has to be way over 3%, you don't perceive distortion as distorted under 1%.
The rtings one is l300 non limited version, which has less 1.5khz and more 3khz. But you can try anyways.THANK YOU, again, @flipflop! I will try these soon and report back
My profile is really not that far off from his. The main differences are 2-2.5 dB less sub-bass, 4-6 dB less treble past 6 kHz, and 2 dB more gain at 4.1 kHz. You could try to reduce the gain of the last mentioned filter from 7.9 to 5 dB.I just tried the rtings EQ values @flipflop for the Focal Elegia. Doesn't sound right at all. Treble and mids sound all messed up. Oratory's EQ values with minor treble + bass decrease sounds much better to my ear.
The boxes for the Q-factors become grey and uneditable when you choose those filters in Peace. The default values are 1.5 for both.Question about the Q-values. You don't list them for both shelf filters. What's the reason? Roon wants some values for these as well.
Yeah, that couldn't have sounded pleasant. Glad I was right, though, and didn't make you chase shadows.Aah... it did NOT look like that. I had the values correctly, but filter 4 was high shelf instead of peak. You can imagine the sound was wrong.
Last piece of advice: change the frequency of filter 1 from 250 to 150.Now it's fixed and it sounds better, but I still think oratory's EQ values are better. For example the filter 1 is too much and extends too high imo.
??I would hope that Stax do and share. If not I would ignore them.