Review and Measurements of Topping D50 DAC

[badboygolf16v]

Yes!!!


Is not analytical, is pure!!

How much money do you have to spend to overcome this combination??? €€$$$€€

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Well the Massdrop Koss ESP95X is not so much money...

 

[tohoho4]

The Sony X-800 UHD BD (and also SACD and DVD-Audio) player can upsample CD's to 88.2 Khz/24 bit and does a good job at it but Saracon is better.

I am also using Sony X-800 UHD BD player to upsample CD ripping sources. But CD ripping sources are 48 kHz/16 bit format files which resampled by SoX Resampler. DSEE HX upsampler of Sony X-800 UHD BD player seems to produce better upsampled spectrum by using 48 kHz/16 bit format files than using 44.1 kHz/16 format files.

1 kHz square wave (48 kHz/16 bit) upsampled spectrum : https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0000963318/SortID=20990601/ImageID=2792867/
1 kHz square wave (44.1 kHz/16 bit) upsampled spectrum : https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0000963318/SortID=20990601/ImageID=2792869/

 

[Kiko1974]

I am also using Sony X-800 UHD BD player to upsample CD ripping sources. But CD ripping sources are 48 kHz/16 bit format files which resampled by SoX Resampler. DSEE HX upsampler of Sony X-800 UHD BD player seems to produce better upsampled spectrum by using 48 kHz/16 bit format files than using 44.1 kHz/16 format files.

1 kHz square wave (48 kHz/16 bit) upsampled spectrum : https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0000963318/SortID=20990601/ImageID=2792867/
1 kHz square wave (44.1 kHz/16 bit) upsampled spectrum : https://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/K0000963318/SortID=20990601/ImageID=2792869/

You're right,those graphic charts look off with 44.1 Khz sampling rate upsampled by the Sony X-800. There seems to be both noise and linearity issues, there out of the audio band but these issues shouldn't be there in the first place. I've switched DSEE HX upsampler off from my Sony X-800, I seldom use it, it's only for the CD's that I play once in a while, for the rest that I have ripped I have them both at their native resolution of 44.1/16 and upsampled at 176.4/24 with Weiss Saracon, which makes the CD rips sound better. No upsampler can "invent" resolution that's not in the source, there's no magical trick to turn hey into gold. My theory behind upsampling is that by upping the sample rate the antialiasing filter is moved far away from the audio band when playing, and by reshaping the original 16 bit waveform into a 24 bit one (some upsamplers just add padding 0's, others like Saracon don't) the original wave is smoothed, just my 0.002$.

 

[miguelx74]

Hi everyone.
the differences with the D10? The D10 topping costs 70/75 euros instead the D50 costs 200 euros.
Is it recommended to pay 130/125 euros more to upgrade the D10?
Do the differences between D10 and D50 justify the expense?

the dac will have to be connected to the Atom jds

 

[NAP]

Good afternoon, I am here for the first time, from day to day I am waiting for my d50. I listen to the TV through the TV box on the android - mi tv box3. I remove the sound from it on optics. Tidal uses mqa files, how will d50 handle them? Maybe some special settings are needed, or will I lose the sound quality in any case?

 

[amirm]

Tidal uses mqa files, how will d50 handle them?

Tidal software will decode MQA for you so the D50 will work just fine with no change or settings.

MQA DACs can upsample from 96 kHz to 192 kHz but you don't need that.

I play TIDAL MQA all the time my non-MQA (Topping DX3 Pro) all the time....

 

[Veri]

Hi everyone.
the differences with the D10? The D10 topping costs 70/75 euros instead the D50 costs 200 euros.
Is it recommended to pay 130/125 euros more to upgrade the D10?
Do the differences between D10 and D50 justify the expense?

the dac will have to be connected to the Atom jds

Go middle line, D30 Lol. Imo you shouldn't spend too much for the Atom pairing, honestly the aesthetics and matching of the two devices might as well be the most important thing between different well measuring devices such as these. And the desired features of course.

 

[miguelx74]

hello, the D10 or the D50 are aesthetically better matched to the Atom than the D30 .

then the difference between D10 and d30 is really minimal, almost insignificant, but the D10 costs much less! So I'm interested in D10 vs D50

 

[Veri]

So I'm interested in D10 vs D50

Personally I did not find the D50 better for its price (I sold it on ebay pretty quickly) but others might think it's worth it. Might be a personal thing too, whether the surplus cash is fully 'worth' minimal gains. Up to you

 

[miguelx74]

D10 and I live happy

 

[NAP]

Dear colleagues, if you power the d50 from the usual 5v powerbank for mobile devices, provided it is turned off automatically in the absence of an input signal, will the powerbank continue to discharge in standby d50 mode? Or will the discharge also be zero?

 

[porotikos]

Hi guys. i am really considering the d50, and i have started reading reviews etc everywhere on the internet. so, id like to ask some questions to the owners.
first of all would you call it neutral? in a good sense? or is it sounding a bit "dead"? i love neutrality, but there is a fine line between being neutral and lifeless...
also i read some reviews that it is a bit "trebly". is it really the case or perhaps those that reported that, had problems in other parts of their chain?
can someone recommend a cheap but good eu power adapter to get for the d50?
do you guys have any problems with new firmware? i read in another forums for some problems?
bottomline, should i get it? it looks so temptiiing
thank you

 

[Veri]

Hi guys. i am really considering the d50, and i have started reading reviews etc everywhere on the internet. so, id like to ask some questions to the owners.
first of all would you call it neutral? in a good sense? or is it sounding a bit "dead"? i love neutrality, but there is a fine line between being neutral and lifeless...

It is dead neutral .. You can use the supplied power adapter for EU no problem btw.

So far over here, I've seen no firmware problems no.

 

[Snafu]

If D50 sounds "bright" or "thin" or "lacks bass" or other sbafbs, problem lies elsewhere. Incredible price/sq ratio.

No remote is only drawback i can think of (but i knew that when buying it).

 

[Marvin7]

I accidentally plug 12v into D50. It can no turn on anymore. Does D50 have a fuse inside it?

 

[Veri]

I accidentally plug 12v into D50. It can no turn on anymore. Does D50 have a fuse inside it?

That's a 240% overdraw of its 5V input so I'm afraid the board will be toast. Sorry.
I think everyone can make this mistake in their life at least once...

 

[Roen]

I accidentally plug 12v into D50. It can no turn on anymore. Does D50 have a fuse inside it?

Ouch, sorry for your loss.

 

[Peib]

any news about the upcoming topping a-50 ?

 

[Kiko1974]

Dear colleagues, if you power the d50 from the usual 5v powerbank for mobile devices, provided it is turned off automatically in the absence of an input signal, will the powerbank continue to discharge in standby d50 mode? Or will the discharge also be zero?

I'm afraid the despite turning the D50 off or let it switch off by the abscense of signal will let the D50 in Stand By mode so it will draw current from the powerbank. Fortunately there are powerbank with a switch off button like the EC Technology I use.

 

[NAP]

I understand that you need to use the power bank ONLY with the power button, otherwise it will be constantly discharged. somewhere here I read that the current consumed in stand by mode is 170 ma, the batteries are set to shut off 50 ma, it means they will continue to work, you are right.