Serious Question: How can DAC's have a SOUND SIGNATURE if they measure as transparent? Are that many confused?

[staticV3]

Which of these toppings, SMSLs... if any, would be better than my setup?

None would be audibly better. What you have is already fully transparent.

If you want to improve the sound, then focus on loudspeakers, acoustic treatment and room correction.

 

[electrolutz]

None would be audibly better. What you have is already fully transparent.

If you want to improve the sound, then focus on loudspeakers, acoustic treatment and room correction.

Many thanks for the answer
No, I wasn't interested in improving the sound and from my point of view my speakers are very, very good and I don't know of any others that could be better within an affordable framework.
Sometimes I add two active 30 cm subwoofers with DSP. But otherwise I am very satisfied with the passive solution and my room.
For me it was really just about the DAC, about the transparency.

 

[DavidEdwinAston]

Nice of you to so quickly realise your mistake muso!
Enjoy yourself on the appropriate sites.

 

[Ken1951]

Nice of you to so quickly realise your mistake muso!
Enjoy yourself on the appropriate sites.

He'll go back to his sites wearing his "I quit ASR Troll Badge-of-Honor"

 

[Mnyb]

Wonder how many of these accounts with like 7 posts actually are the same person just trolling us ? should we just put them on the ignore list without even answer any of them ?

Or should we assume that anyone posting nonsense in this tread as their first action as members being a troll and just push the report button directly ?

 

[fpitas]

For those still skeptical about the reliable replies here, the only thing left to do is recommend to pour some wine on the DAC.

Marinade it overnight.

 

[Purité Audio]

If posting here makes at least one contributor pause for a moment before they buy the next piece of BS than ASR has been useful.
Keith

 

[fpitas]

should we assume that anyone posting nonsense in this tread as their first action as members being a troll

I do. But, there's a tiny chance they're not here simply to stir up trouble. So a few polite replies is in order. Generally, it gets obvious if they're trolltastic.

 

[fpitas]

Enjoy yourself on the appropriate sites.

He probably has 7 more accounts here

 

[OldTimer]

Many thanks for the answer
No, I wasn't interested in improving the sound and from my point of view my speakers are very, very good and I don't know of any others that could be better within an affordable framework.
Sometimes I add two active 30 cm subwoofers with DSP. But otherwise I am very satisfied with the passive solution and my room.
For me it was really just about the DAC, about the transparency.

I heard different sound from different DAC using same amp and speakers. Last time I used Bur Brown Wolfson DAC and now AKM AK. AK is more dynamic, but Wolfson is good on vocal/singer.

 

[voodooless]

I heard different sound from different DAC using same amp and speakers. Last time I used Bur Brown Wolfson DAC and now AKM AK. AK is more dynamic, but Wolfson is good on vocal/singer.

That's nonsense. If two DACs sound different from each other, at least one of them is broken. And there is plenty of evidence to back this up. You, however, only have a nice story.

 

[DVDdoug]

I heard different sound from different DAC using same amp and speakers. Last time I used Bur Brown Wolfson DAC and now AKM AK. AK is more dynamic, but Wolfson is good on vocal/singer.

That's possible but it's suspicious that you didn't say what the difference was... i.e. Background noise, distortion, no bass, etc. Noise ,frequency response, and distortion are really all there is to "sound quality" when it comes to DACs or other electronics (see Audiophoolery). If there's a difference it's usually noise (hum, hiss, or whine in the background). But you would have mentioned that.

And, you probably didn't do a proper level-matched, blind, ABX Test.

 

[b7676]

E70V, D70 Pro Octo/Sabre, Su-9 Ultra.
The headphone amps (L70, A70 pro) get the preamp with r2r analog volume control which is very nice.
An LA90d amplifier is much more performance (not power unless monoblocked).

 

[ahofer]

The challenge remains unmet by however many visitors these accounts represent.

 

[fpitas]

The challenge remains unmet by however many visitors these accounts represent.

I think the idea is that we're supposed to prove their zany ideas.

 

[stefanovesa]

Nice of you to so quickly realise your mistake muso!
Enjoy yourself on the appropriate sites.

Hi, I'm not sure if your reply is for my post. My English is be very bad so I could have misunderstood. Anyway I've just joined the forum. My post could be not in-topic or troll-like, but it wanted to be a personal confirm from newbie that the audio measurements have changed my audio experience with DACs. Nothing else.
Cheers,
Stefano

 

[fpitas]

No worries. He meant Musoman, a member who is no longer with us. We like to think he has gone to a far more subjective place.

 

[VintageFlanker]

Last time I used Bur Brown Wolfson DAC and now AKM AK. AK is more dynamic, but Wolfson is good on vocal/singer

Bur Brown (TI) & Wolfson (Cirrus) are two different things. Yet, both are known to have somewhat a warm/analog sound with pleasant harmonics. AKM is also warm, but slightly more transparent, more dynamic and precise. ESS are on the north side of neutral, very resolving and bright.

Or at least, in the collective imagination.

 

[DavidEdwinAston]

No worries. He meant Musoman, a member who is no longer with us. We like to think he has gone to a far more subjective place.

Thanks fpitas. Spot on!
Even now, Old Harry is holding Musomans feet to the coals.

 

[b7676]

And, you probably didn't do a proper level-matched, blind, ABX Test.

How about this analogy for the improbability against ABX'ing level matched with ears;
ABX a cesium and your quartz kitchen clock, but you only get one 'frame' per second to do it, and never directly against the other or gaplessly between the two.