175 years ago, yes. A few more have acquired it since then.Problem there is only one human on earth had that skill. LOL
Rick “CNC micro-machining is good to maybe 50 millionths” Denney
175 years ago, yes. A few more have acquired it since then.Problem there is only one human on earth had that skill. LOL
@Sal1950 don't appreciate the patronising tone mate - I read and comprehend (most) of the posts here and I love the inclusive vibe of ASR. Keep it like that.Really? How long have you been reading Amir's reviews here? They're 100% about measuring for the "hHgh Fidelity" of gear under test. Or maybe that a big part of the problem, some folks not even understanding what he does here ???
Maybe you should start asking some questions on the details of our reviews that you don't understand. I'm not an EE but there are many here that can help you to understand some of the areas your missing. Also google can be a great friend, I've spent near as much time on google over the years as I do here looking things up. We always hoped folks would come here looking for a deeper understanding of the technology of High Fidelity.
And I wish you wouldn't go to this Politcialy Correct extreme of calling anyone that disagrees with you and offers up technically exact truths "haters". There is no HATE involved, if there is, then I wish you would quit coming to a science based website and hating on science..
Then why are you here?
??? Sure, isn't that exactly what we're doing?
It's just the facts of the answers you don't want to hear about.
IMHO, Mikey Fremer has been the biggest obstical to the advancement of true High Fidelity Reproduction in the home I've ever witnessed in my 50 some years as a Hi Fi enthusiast. Sad.
Then what was the purpose-question in this post?@Sal1950 don't appreciate the patronising tone mate - I read and comprehend (most) of the posts here
Measurements here and on other sites do indeed measure performance of components. Those measurements demonstrate the higher performance of digital transports Vs analogue. Other measurements demonstrate the limitations of vinyl as a method for storing audio. No issues or argument.Then what was the purpose-question in this post?
Amir's measurements of gear shows how each component in the review is performing it's job.
What else is it the bolded text is asking?
Sorry but I don't have a lot of filters, my responses are as short as possible and directly relate my thoughts at the time.
"How do you measure 'high fidelity' then? I understand the term 'bit perfect' - that's clear, is that what you mean?
I'm not talking about the recording, but the signal processing that takes place which changes the input into our hi-fi systems and which can be different for different media."
Not sure about the lower quality well mastered part.I'll take lower quality, well mastered audio over high quality, badly mastered audio any day.
Feel free to make posts on various masters of each recording if you like. you'll find some limited posting here on that.Secondary point is that finding information on how a file has been mastered is difficult so choosing where to spend the money us tricky.
Interesting - which other sites do you recommend for that?Not sure about the lower quality well mastered part.
I believe I get your direction, your referring to a limited DR digital vs a vinyl with a wider DR?
I hear that often
Feel free to make posts on various masters of each recording if you like. you'll find some limited posting here on that.
OTOH, that's not the focus of what we do here, we measure gear. There are other sites that focus on that aspect and where I go when doing my homework.
Steve Hoffmans site is a major gathering place where audiophiles get together to discuss recording quality.Interesting - which other sites do you recommend for that?
Perhaps your "bedside manner" could use some refinement. Put in electronic terms - a little feedback (reconsideration) does wonders for an amplifiers (brain) output (spoken or written words).Sorry but I don't have a lot of filters, my responses are as short as possible and directly relate my thoughts at the time.
I think the analogue/vinyl thing really sums up the difference between the ASR approach and the other 99% of audio users. Someone posted a link the other day to an interview of Lawrence Dickie on Soundonsound, where he said he was not a great theoretician, but a very good practical engineer. I looked him up and and saw he was at Southampton University about 1978-81. That was a coincidence because at the time I was working in Southampton in a specialist engineering business (mostly Marine and Aviation) that was set up by a bunch of engineers from Southampton's Institute of Sound and Vibration Research. I can only assume that is where LD was studying. It was a world leading research centre at the time.Then what was the purpose-question in this post?
Amir's measurements of gear shows how each component in the review is performing it's job.
What else is it the bolded text is asking?
Sorry but I don't have a lot of filters, my responses are as short as possible and directly relate my thoughts at the time.
"How do you measure 'high fidelity' then? I understand the term 'bit perfect' - that's clear, is that what you mean?
I'm not talking about the recording, but the signal processing that takes place which changes the input into our hi-fi systems and which can be different for different media."
Ta.Steve Hoffmans site is a major gathering place where audiophiles get together to discuss recording quality.
If I have a question on a particular release I'll go there and do a search on it first.
What I care most about today are multich recordings and I spend a lot of time at
QuadraphonicQuad forums.
If your a Classical music person I'm sure there's better places but that's not my thing.
Common sense at last! Many posting on this thread have never heard a precision engineered turntable, preferring to sneer at the thought of vinyl being worth listening too. There are others who post pictures of turntables that weren’t any good 40 years ago when they were new. Then going on about how good automatic stacking multi disc turntables were? One further thought on the turntable / digital discussion is the mechanical inertia in a turntable ensures it can’t track the distortions inherent in digital reproduction.FWIW, my turntable wasn't even made by an audio company, it was a one-off project by a precision machining company, that mostly manufactures components for medical and aerospace businesses, and some other audio companies. The manufacturing tolerance is something like 0.01mm. The bearing is a work of art. The arm mounts are machined to order to the length of the arm being used to a tolerance of 0.1mm. They chose to use the same motors as in the Linn LP12 and Rega belts, so there are no spare part issues. There is simple electronic speed control. Assembly takes 10 minutes.
It really is more about quality of fabrication. Mine is not unique, SME make some of the world's best turntables and they are primarily a precision engineering business, more than an audio business.
SME | Sectors
sme.co.uk
You see, that is the sort of inflammatory characterisation that threads like this are better off without.Many posting on this thread have never heard a precision engineered turntable, preferring to sneer at the thought of vinyl being worth listening too.
I do not disagree with your comment, but from where I seat it looks all the Inflammatory is coming from a different member and that this thread would be better off without him.You see, that is the sort of inflammatory characterisation that threads like this are better off without.
Just commenting on what I’ve read on this thread. To get anything worthwhile out of vinyl reproduction costs! As DWI said precision engineering is needed, you can spout on as much as you want about cheap DACs being all you need for a decent result whether for streaming or CDs and I won’t put up much of an argument. Precision mechanical engineering can’t be done on the cheap.You see, that is the sort of inflammatory characterisation that threads like this are better off without.
To get anything worthwhile out of vinyl reproduction costs!