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Working too hard can give you a Heart Attack Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack... My Heart Attack Story.

Definitely looking out for myself instead of pushing myself.

Good call.

One thing that is coming clear as I gain more information about heart health in general, is that the stress element should be addressed just as directly as the sleep, diet and exercise elements.
You've got to look out for yourself.
 
So no regrets it sounds like.

I'm in that middle age group where there is no clear recommendation. The idea of a second open heart surgery isn't terribly appealing, but being permanently and irrevocably tied to warfarin isn't either.

Separate question... Can you hear your valve clicking away when it's quiet?
Ticking can be heard if I lie on one ear. High frequent like clock. Otherwise no.
 
Did you get your results? How is it looking? As my grandmother used to say, 'Growing old is not for sissies!'
Yes I got the results.
Thankfully all was listed as "satisfactory and without abnormalities" with the LVEF count of 76% which is
supposed to be very good. So for now Thank God all seems well, no further testing has been recommended.
Your granny sure knew what she was talking about. ;)
 
One day your infallible, next your not.
I have two indicators of advice:
Bleeding gums and scratching your arms lightly and it hurts.
Very important get yourself checked out.
A blood pressure machine should be used once a month also.
Brave to share imo, can save lives in talking about it (Thumbs up emoji)
 
Leaning towards the biological. That means I'll likely need another replacement down the road, but the anticoagulant requirement, and all that goes with it for the mechanical is mainly what's putting me off that option.
If you can use Xarelto, you might want to reconsider. I've been on it for 6 years now, and it really seems to be trouble free. No monthly checks like with Warfarin. Just take it, and it's zero maintenance, and not nearly as risky if you fall or cut yourself, or something like that.
 
that the stress element should be addressed just as directly as the sleep, diet and exercise elements.
Well, how about 1 out of 4? I mean I have always been a high achiever and when I retired I said enough of the gold ring crap. Exceeding expectations is a worthy goal. Just be careful of how you goal set. :cool:
 
If you can use Xarelto, you might want to reconsider. I've been on it for 6 years now, and it really seems to be trouble free. No monthly checks like with Warfarin. Just take it, and it's zero maintenance, and not nearly as risky if you fall or cut yourself, or something like that.
In this case (mechanical valve) warfarin is absolutely necessary and must not be substituted by Xarelto or same. A mechanical valve requires 24/7 continuous anticoagulation.
That's different with other stuff like atrial fibrillation or thrombosis.
 
...is that the stress element should be addressed...
C'mon @BDWoody,
I know you got that IOC* memo about "Don't pet the sweaty stuff AND don't sweat the petty stuff"!
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(or vice-versa)
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*IOC: InterOfficeCommunication; inside the official manila-envelop
 
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I was surprised just last night to read that the super talented and still fairly young pro cyclist, Peter Sagan, needed two heart surgeries to correct "anomalous tachycardia."
 
Next day took my dog for a walk, suddenly felt sick cold clammy sweat pain in my left arm and an intense chest pain.
I had too slowly get home.
This is very interesting to me. One night several years ago I was walking my dog and suddenly felt weak with a slight pulse. All at once I was flushed with sweat over my entire body and thought I might pass out. But no specific heart-related issues. Just major trembling and weakness.

First I had to get the dog home! Contemplated calling 911 but of course I thought how it might cost thousands if insurance decided it wasn't 'medically necessary' (I can tell you stories).

Anyway went home and went to sleep. At my next regular visit to the doctor I told him about this and had an EEG performed. He said there was no evidence of a heart attack. My question to anyone who might know: is this really something a physician can determine from a test weeks later? I was glad I hadn't called 911. I know that might set people off but they probably have better insurance than I do.
 
Anyway went home and went to sleep. At my next regular visit to the doctor I told him about this and had an EEG performed.
EEG or EKG? I'm no doctor and not sure on the EEG but I'd ask for a stress test if your still nervous.
 
If you can use Xarelto, you might want to reconsider. I've been on it for 6 years now, and it really seems to be trouble free. No monthly checks like with Warfarin. Just take it, and it's zero maintenance, and not nearly as risky if you fall or cut yourself, or something like that.

DO NOT USE Xarelto for valvular heart disease, and especially not mechanical valves. Warfarin only! There are ample studies that show that all drugs in the NOAC class do not confer protection when used with mechanical valves.
 
Low blood sugar?
I had a few of those "spikes" but not in years.
EEG or EKG? I'm no doctor and not sure on the EEG but I'd ask for a stress test if your still nervous.

Do I win anything if I am correct?;)
Oh yeah, I meant EKG. Thanks but I'm not nervous, just curious. If my doctor isn't worried I don't worry. .

Likely not low blood sugar as I am borderline high.
 
It can be working too hard, it can be doing too little, it could be extremely bad luck or it could be a direct result of your life choices, but having a Heart Attack is one of those scary things that we've all seen in movies, and have all heard the handful of common symptoms for, but most will never experience. Well...lucky me...I got to go through this last week on Thursday when in the middle of what was quite the work call (my real work, not what I do here) I started to feel what was a mild pressure in my chest. Nothing crazy, nothing like what you see in the movies. I wasn't clutching my chest, I wasn't struggling to breathe, it just felt a little tight, like I had just run an extra wind sprint and expected it to just fade away. No big deal...

Well, a few minutes later it still wasn't feeling any better. Nothing extreme, and through the entire course of events, I never had what I would consider extreme pain anywhere. So, at this point I do a bunch of useless stuff, like pulling out my little portable Kardia Mobile EKG, my blood pressure cuff and my pulse oximeter, none of which showed me anything unusual. Another 5-10 minutes go by and nothing is getting better, so I go online and start looking up symptoms of a heart attack, because obviously who needs a cardiologist at a time like this, I'm perfectly capable of determining whether I am going to die in a few hours without treatment, right? hmmmm....

Another 10-15 minutes go by and I'm starting to imagine my left arm/shoulder is feeling...something. Well, of course I must be imagining that, since that's just one of the symptoms on every list you read, so it's likely just psychosomatic...just ignore that for a bit and see if it gets better. Wait, now I'm starting to feel a bit clammy and sweaty, and quite suddenly the words that came to my mind were

"Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes."

At that point, I decided to not let my vanity get in the way of survival so I actually called 911, took a couple of aspirin, unlocked my door and sat on my couch and waited. Paramedics got there within about 6 minutes where they got me loaded up and off we went. Hooked me up to an IV and a 12 lead EKG, which is where they were able to see that telltale STEMI pattern on the trace. Got me to one of the better cardiac units in the State which was only another 7 minutes down the road where I was met by a full team who descended on me like a hive of bees, got me switched to their gurney and started sprinting me down the hall towards the Cath Lab. It was a pretty intense time, with a lot happening. A catheter was fed through the radial artery of my right wrist (yes, that hurts) and they had other stuff going into IVs on the other arm, and to make a long story short, found a 100% blockage of the Right Coronary Artery. That was then cleared and a stent was placed, and the part of my heart that had been starved of Oxygen was back online. Whew!

From there it was to the Cardiac ICU for that night and the next day, and while there was a little excitement that first night (a little v-tach thrown in for fun) it's been smooth sailing since, and I was released on Saturday. My two kids and my ex-wife (we are very close friends) descended on my world and took over, cleaning out all the shit I like to eat and replacing it with the stuff that tastes like shit but that won't kill me, and helping in every way imaginable, and I've got amazing friends that have provided nothing but support, so I am in a good place in terms of getting through all this, but it's no joke.

I will have to go back for Open Heart Surgery later this year to replace my Aortic Valve (Bicuspid valve...not specifically related to the MI but a separate issue that it's time to take care of anyway) and to have a Coronary Bypass for the Left Anterior Descending Artery which has significant blockage, but that they wanted to wait to treat until they could do the graft and the valve replacement together. That's a few months down the road, after I've had a chance to fully recover from this most recent event.

So, why tell you all about this?

Here's the thing...the reason I am alive is that I resisted whatever urge it is that tells us to just tough it out, soldier on, stiff upper lip, don't be a whiner, that's something that happens to other people, I'm only 57 (fill in your age here), I'm 5'10" 155lbs, no obvious lifestyle problems other than too much coffee/sugar/fat/flavor/salt how could I be having a heart attack? I've ridden out kidney stones at home I can handle this, or whatever else. If I had followed my initial instinct to just go lay down for a few hours to see how I felt later, that may have awarded me the ultimate stupid prize in the ultimate stupid game. I am glad my son didn't have to find me there.

There isn't one set of symptoms for a heart attack. If you are concerned enough to be looking up heart attack symptoms PUT DOWN THE KEYBOARD, PICK UP YOUR PHONE AND CALL 911!
This is one of those medical events where once you've got a blocked coronary artery, there is a ticking clock counting down to zero, and if you decide you want to play the stupid game of watching that clock tick its way down as you ponder what web site to look at next, you may win the ultimate stupid prize.

So, please...please...at least take a minute and think about how you will react when you, or someone you love is experiencing anything that in any way could mean you're having a heart issue. Have no doubt that if you get to a hospital and you've just got some bad gas, that is a cause for celebration, not a sign that you shouldn't have called in the first place. I had quite a few of the nurses over the last few days tell me stories about people who waited too long, and you can see how it angers them when proper care is a 911 call away, but they just go die in their bedroom or end up dying on the way to the hospital instead because of their vanity.

On that happy note, I very much appreciate this community and thought that it might be worth sharing this crazy story for those who may go through something like it, in the hopes that instead of playing doctor with yourself, you will let an actual MD do it.

Thanks for listening, and now on with our regularly scheduled programming. Thank God.

I have only read the first page of the thread but in the event no one has said this, or even if they have, I think you did a huge service in writing this. You may well directly or indirectly save another person’s life, maybe mine, who knows.

I am 62 and got my full cardiac work-up about 18 months ago. Fortunately, everything was okay, But at my age, if I understand correctly, the two leading causes of death increasingly become cardiac / cardiovascular or cancer. Reading your first-hand account was very sobering for me, because I can easily picture myself deluding myself into thinking nothing is wrong.

I wish you the very best in your recovery, as I’m sure everyone else does.
 
This is very interesting to me. One night several years ago I was walking my dog and suddenly felt weak with a slight pulse. All at once I was flushed with sweat over my entire body and thought I might pass out. But no specific heart-related issues. Just major trembling and weakness.

First I had to get the dog home! Contemplated calling 911 but of course I thought how it might cost thousands if insurance decided it wasn't 'medically necessary' (I can tell you stories).

Anyway went home and went to sleep. At my next regular visit to the doctor I told him about this and had an EEG performed. He said there was no evidence of a heart attack. My question to anyone who might know: is this really something a physician can determine from a test weeks later? I was glad I hadn't called 911. I know that might set people off but they probably have better insurance than I do.
ECG can tell about arrythmia, but gives no reliable clue to coronary disease.
Exercise ECG would be needed at least, better in combination with cardiac ultrasonography to detect myocardial movement disorders.
More specific would be myocardial scintigraphy and/or MRT and, for the large vessels, the catheter.
 
As a related topic. Talking with Brad as he navigated this major medical crisis he informed me that he was getting one of those health monitoring smart Watches. I was pretty bias towards this tech. Maybe derived from my fear of what bad news wearing one myself may bring? Fast forward to now and I wear one every day and I monitor and track the various heart health data sets it tracks. For reference my resting heart rate is around 45/46 BPM and my Sleeping is 41/42 average. When I exercise my heart rate can go up to 125 ish.

Last week (Oct 9th evening and 10th early morning) as Hurricane Milton came ashore and we were smack dab in the middle of its path. As the preverbal shit hit the fan and the winds were whistling at a very high and powerful pitch. That lasted from about 4pm through 4am the next morning. There were several data recordings that had my heart rate up to 148 BPM (I think this was when the Eye passed over us and I went outside to check and clear the street storm drains. It was pretty scary and dark and I had no idea when the storm would start again). I did not discover this data until a few days later as we lost power and the Watch had failed to sync to my IPad. My Watch never sent any abnormal heart rhythms detected. But I really had no clue that my heart was racing so fast. I felt fine other than slightly terrified about the winds and storm surge potential.

My point. If you are over 50 years old. I strongly recommend that you consider getting a health monitoring watch. It could save your life and give you real data to inform you about the health of your heart that you can really use in consultation with your doctor.
 
Be aware that data will not be at your own but shared via 'smart' gadgets.
Most of such items want need to be connected to a webservice, that might share some (more than acceptable) informations of an individual.
So there are some caveats.
For me I would appreciate a ECG derived from a smart watch that provides clearly arrythmia, esp. atrial ones, that predict raised risk to apoplexia, e.g.
 
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