What is the best phone with Aux 3.5mm jack and 32-bit/384kHz audio?

[Jmudrick]

I bought a V60 and relegated my G7 to DAP duty. The quad dac in these LG phones sounds as good as most dongles plus they have SD support.

And battery life is insane compared to most any DAP or dongled phone.

 

[A Surfer]

Indeed. I now use my G7 for video taking duty of my drumming practice (really shameful and shouldn't be recorded really) and my G8X is now my DAP.

 

[Jmudrick]

Indeed. I now use my G7 for video taking duty of my drumming practice (really shameful and shouldn't be recorded really) and my G8X is now my DAP.

Do the math...

 

[A Surfer]

Do the math...

Try to get those numbers from most purpose built DAPs. And using my phone as my source has allowed me to get rid of a computer tied to my DAC, good riddance I say. Yes a phone is a computer of course, but I think it is different enough to reference it as not a computer. I used to go through the trouble of JRiver (although it really isn't any trouble) and my laptop tied to my DAC via USB because of a ridiculous belief that Bluetooth done well was not audibly transparent. It absolutely is and anybody who thinks with properly implemented Bluetooth at both points in the chain that they are giving up audible fidelity versus USB is telling themselves a story that they want to hear.

 

[Roderik]

Happy new year everybody, recently my old samsung s8 died, so i am without a phone currently.
I have many 3.5m jack/aux equipment like headphones and other things which i want to use without any convertors .
Whats currently the best phones which you can advice me with aux/ 3.5mm jack which measures well and have high end dac and stuff like that?
My phone motherboard is dead so i need to get something else i am currently considering lg g5 but its very old and hard to find and it will be used a lot with hifi friends plus, or samsung s10 . Please share your feedback.
Two things are absolute must 1st phone needs to have aux 3.5mm jack , and 2nd phone needs to have 32-bit/384kHz audio chip.

I am currently using my iphone 13 to listen music via lightning to aux convertor and its junk sound quality is 1000 times worse compared to my samsung s8....
so i dont want convertor/adapters only pure 3.5mm jack aux... i also dont like bluetooth.
What phones you can advice me , i dont mind used phones or older ones,as long as they are exellent in sound quality and fit my needs

Happy new year everybody, recently my old samsung s8 died, so i am without a phone currently.
I have many 3.5m jack/aux equipment like headphones and other things which i want to use without any convertors .
Whats currently the best phones which you can advice me with aux/ 3.5mm jack which measures well and have high end dac and stuff like that?
My phone motherboard is dead so i need to get something else i am currently considering lg g5 but its very old and hard to find and it will be used a lot with hifi friends plus, or samsung s10 . Please share your feedback.
Two things are absolute must 1st phone needs to have aux 3.5mm jack , and 2nd phone needs to have 32-bit/384kHz audio chip.

I am currently using my iphone 13 to listen music via lightning to aux convertor and its junk sound quality is 1000 times worse compared to my samsung s8....
so i dont want convertor/adapters only pure 3.5mm jack aux... i also dont like bluetooth.
What phones you can advice me , i dont mind used phones or older ones,as long as they are exellent in sound quality and fit my needi

Try to get those numbers from most purpose built DAPs. And using my phone as my source has allowed me to get rid of a computer tied to my DAC, good riddance I say. Yes a phone is a computer of course, but I think it is different enough to reference it as not a computer. I used to go through the trouble of JRiver (although it really isn't any trouble) and my laptop tied to my DAC via USB because of a ridiculous belief that Bluetooth done well was not audibly transparent. It absolutely is and anybody who thinks with properly implemented Bluetooth at both points in the chain that they are giving up audible fidelity versus USB is telling themselves a story that they want to hear.

This can’t be serious. Because what’s wrong with an iPhone plus a simple cheap Apple dongle (lightning to 3.5)? It certainly doesn’t produce terrible sound. Only for headphones that are power slurpers you may need an extra headphone amplifier but Grados for example (also the very expensive ones) can be driven easily by an iPhone. To connect an iPhone to an amplifier you can stream via Airplay 2 in 24/192 quality. Anybody who says that’s not enough is lying. So this whole question is rubbish.

 

[Jmudrick]

This can’t be serious. Because what’s wrong with an iPhone plus a simple cheap Apple dongle (lightning to 3.5)? It certainly doesn’t produce terrible sound. Only for headphones that are power slurpers you may need an extra headphone amplifier but Grados for example (also the very expensive ones) can be driven easily by an iPhone. To connect an iPhone to an amplifier you can stream via Airplay 2 in 24/192 quality. Anybody who says that’s not enough is lying. So this whole question is rubbish.

You aspire to not terrible? And battery life using a dongle does become important. But hey if it's all just rubbish thanks for playing we'll see you next thread I guess.

 

[DS_Construct]

The LG V series is tops for a DAP with every convenience and great battery life.

 

[A Surfer]

This can’t be serious. Because what’s wrong with an iPhone plus a simple cheap Apple dongle (lightning to 3.5)? It certainly doesn’t produce terrible sound. Only for headphones that are power slurpers you may need an extra headphone amplifier but Grados for example (also the very expensive ones) can be driven easily by an iPhone. To connect an iPhone to an amplifier you can stream via Airplay 2 in 24/192 quality. Anybody who says that’s not enough is lying. So this whole question is rubbish.

Are you reading my post properly? I don't think so. I was saying that BT is excellent and you went off on a tangent that didn't have anything to do with my point. Or I didn't think so anyway.

 

[Masterxyr]

LG V60 (or V50), if you don't mind an older phone. Can find brand new on ebay.

aparently, one cannot throw a question into the webz pond about this without the answer being lg v60.
Now, I'm coming from a v20 (which went crazy and I tried my best to dive into the crazysantas, KDZs, flashing this and that, and no luck, but I was really happy with how it IMO dealt with almost all my phones, the exception being the 880s 600ohm (still mostly fine, but can't expect miracles).
I found a reasonable deal on ebay (can't find them anywhere else in almost all of Europe) but I'm wondering about warranty as 300$ without that blanket of reassurance leaves a little uneasy. the seller is seemingly trustworthy.
All this might be a bit noobish, so pardons all round

 

[DS_Construct]

aparently, one cannot throw a question into the webz pond about this without the answer being lg v60.
Now, I'm coming from a v20 (which went crazy and I tried my best to dive into the crazysantas, KDZs, flashing this and that, and no luck, but I was really happy with how it IMO dealt with almost all my phones, the exception being the 880s 600ohm (still mostly fine, but can't expect miracles).
I found a reasonable deal on ebay (can't find them anywhere else in almost all of Europe) but I'm wondering about warranty as 300$ without that blanket of reassurance leaves a little uneasy. the seller is seemingly trustworthy.
All this might be a bit noobish, so pardons all round

I have had a V60, as a phone, and the V40, V30 and V50 as DAPs. If you don't need mqa, then the V60 is a great DAP and, with the second screen, a great gaming device as well. I use Tidal so I have settled on the V50 as it supports MQA with Tidal version 2.31.

 

[PeteTheSoundGuy]

Hey all, just signed up after seeing this thread! I was VERY happy with my LG V50 as a general phone and pretty decent audio player, but just discivered it does not support Voice over LTE, which is the protocol Australia will be left with after 3G shuts down at the end of Aug. So I could just carry the LG around as an internet, txt and audio device, or get another phone that will behave like a phone too! Definitely want a jack plug to run decent IEMs, but don't want anything gaming centric like the ROG series. A good 24bit/192Khz resolution is fine, but futureproofing to 32bit/384 would be great. Zenfone looked ok, but apparently not great audio. So what's left? Have we got to the stage where a phone is just communication and we need to carry around an Astell & Kern, Fiio or similar for good audio? The Moondrop MIAD looked a good option, but seems to be a less than average phone. Surely there a manufacturer out there that ticks all these boxes?!

 

[Jimster480]

Hey all, just signed up after seeing this thread! I was VERY happy with my LG V50 as a general phone and pretty decent audio player, but just discivered it does not support Voice over LTE, which is the protocol Australia will be left with after 3G shuts down at the end of Aug. So I could just carry the LG around as an internet, txt and audio device, or get another phone that will behave like a phone too! Definitely want a jack plug to run decent IEMs, but don't want anything gaming centric like the ROG series. A good 24bit/192Khz resolution is fine, but futureproofing to 32bit/384 would be great. Zenfone looked ok, but apparently not great audio. So what's left? Have we got to the stage where a phone is just communication and we need to carry around an Astell & Kern, Fiio or similar for good audio? The Moondrop MIAD looked a good option, but seems to be a less than average phone. Surely there a manufacturer out there that ticks all these boxes?!

I have a Sony Xperia 1 IV. The headphone jack output is nice but it's power output is pathetic. I also have a Motorola G Stylus 5G 2022.
The Motorola definitely has way more output power. I'm not sure about the actual output performance, but I didn't hear anything specifically horrible. Although, admittedly, I have not spent that much time listening to it with wired headphones.
What I honestly recommend is a dongle, like the KA13 or the Hiby just tested (or any of the other good performing ones).

 

[A Surfer]

All Sony portable gear is consistently woefully underpowered. When it comes to output power and portability, there seems to be absolutely zero reason for Sony to be part of the conversation. Don't even waste your time.

For the record, aside from this, I rather like Sony. I even purchased the Z1R when it first hit the NA market. I probably owned one of the first units available in North America. I have no axe to grind.

 

[Jimster480]

All Sony portable gear is consistently woefully underpowered. When it comes to output power and portability, there seems to be absolutely zero reason for Sony to be part of the conversation. Don't even waste your time.

For the record, aside from this, I rather like Sony. I even purchased the Z1R when it first hit the NA market. I probably owned one of the first units available in North America. I have no axe to grind.

I agree that the output power is terrible. However, the quality is at least good, so if you use it in a car with an auxiliary connection, then it's not the worst thing that you could have and works quite well.
As far as the device itself, well, the speakers are quite good and so is the screen. So if you actually use your phone for any kind of content consumption whatsoever, then it's definitely a nice choice on that side.
As far as format support, well, it supports every possible format under the sun, which is another nice upside.

 

[A Surfer]

I agree that the output power is terrible. However, the quality is at least good, so if you use it in a car with an auxiliary connection, then it's not the worst thing that you could have and works quite well.
As far as the device itself, well, the speakers are quite good and so is the screen. So if you actually use your phone for any kind of content consumption whatsoever, then it's definitely a nice choice on that side.
As far as format support, well, it supports every possible format under the sun, which is another nice upside.

I agree totally with your analysis. And that makes Sony's refusal to listen to their customers and actually develop devices with even minimal power so very frustrating.

And as I stated, I'm not grinding an axe. I actually have owned many Sony products. Heck I even still have a Z7MK2 at home somewhere.

 

[staticV3]

A good 24bit/192Khz resolution is fine, but futureproofing to 32bit/384 would be great.

Human ears are limited to 24bit 48kHz. This will not change into the future.

Higher sample rates than this serve zero purpose. They do not improve sound quality in any way, shape or form.

Therefore, "futureproofing to 32bit/384" is a nonsensical endeavor.

If you think that 48kHz is somehow outdated and you need to upgrade to 192kHz or 384kHz to get the full experience, then you completely fell for the industry's lies.

It is often implied that higher sample rates = higher sound quality.

That way, brands can upsell you more premium products and services.

Sadly, this is in no way rooted in reality.

 

[A Surfer]

Human ears are limited to 24bit 48kHz. This will not change into the future.

Higher sample rates than this serve zero purpose. They do not improve sound quality in any way, shape or form.

Therefore, "futureproofing to 32bit/384" is a nonsensical endeavor.

If you think that 48kHz is somehow outdated and you need to upgrade to 192kHz or 384kHz to get the full experience, then you completely fell for the industry's lies.

It is often implied that higher sample rates = higher sound quality.

That way, brands can upsell you more premium products and services.

Sadly, this is in no way rooted in reality.

It is extremely frustrating that so many people haven't a clue about this and are duped into believing ridiculous claims. So sad.

 

[jcarys]

I have a V30 and after letting it collect dust for far too long, I have now repurposed it for gym use. As long as I'm doing cardio or weights in an indoor space (with a real pocket) then it's great for Tidal driving IEMs. For the phone I gave in and got the latest Pixel because I don't want to have to change my fully operational phone after a couple of years when software support runs out. Now that we have good USB-C dongles, I would not limit myself to a 3.5mm headphone out anymore.

 

[Tell]

Human ears are limited to 24bit 48kHz. This will not change into the future.

At best yeah, but in practice 16/44.1 will do more than fine for the absolute majority of people in almost all situations. And tbh this will actually change in the future when your ears gets older and the need for even 16/44.1 be overkill