Streamer Dac Integrated Amp

[Klint]

Are there any good all in one solutions?
I want my iphone to talk to it and then hear the music from my speakers.
Help appreciated.

/Drazen

 

[abdo123]

Depending on your budget, this (everything you will ever need in one box):

https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-power

or this (Bluetooth only, in stock in April):

https://hifi-express.com/collection...jie-a30-digital-power-amplifier#collapse-tab1

 

[Soundstage]

Active speakers or not?

 

[ZolaIII]

Depending on your budget, this (everything you will ever need in one box):

https://www.minidsp.com/products/streaming-hd-series/shd-power

or this (Bluetooth only, in stock in April):

https://hifi-express.com/collection...jie-a30-digital-power-amplifier#collapse-tab1

That's really bad...
This ain't stellar either but it's cupple steps up.
https://www.denon.com/shop/networksystem/ceoln10
Amp's about 86 dB SINAD thanks to second harmonic, software part ain't great and DAC is from ESS 32 family.

 

[Klint]

Active speakers or not?

No active speakers, need poweramp inside.

 

[abdo123]

That's really bad...
This ain't stellar either but it's cupple steps up.
https://www.denon.com/shop/networksystem/ceoln10
Amp's about 86 dB SINAD thanks to second harmonic, software part ain't great and DAC is from ESS 32 family.

Are you commenting over the Loxje or the MiniDSP?

 

[abdo123]

If you don't want to wait for the Loxje, this is also an alternative in that price range

https://www.amazon.com/S-M-S-L-Infineons-Technology-Amplifier-chip，Bluetooth/dp/B081DJD1G4

 

[Klint]

That's really bad...
This ain't stellar either but it's cupple steps up.
https://www.denon.com/shop/networksystem/ceoln10
Amp's about 86 dB SINAD thanks to second harmonic, software part ain't great and DAC is from ESS 32 family.

Havent seen that one. Was thinking of upgrading my avr to the 3700 and thougth of a 2-channel that would perform better, instead.
Didnt find any test on the Denon?

 

[ZolaIII]

Are you commenting over the Loxje or the MiniDSP?

Mini DSP.

 

[abdo123]

Mini DSP.

I think the MiniDSP with Dirac would defecate over the Benchmark AHB2 in pretty much every real world situation.

try to look past the SINAD obsession.

 

[Klint]

I think the MiniDSP with Dirac would defecate over the Benchmark AHB2 in pretty much every real world.

try to look past the SINAD obsession.

Thats a good point. Gone from just listen to just trust measurements...
Ofcourse room is important, dsp.
Thanks

 

[ZolaIII]

I think the MiniDSP with Dirac would defecate over the Benchmark AHB2 in pretty much every real world.

try to look past the SINAD obsession.

I am but old Burr DAC there says to me no thanks. Denon is at least there regarding deacent mid LPS speakers tho it doesn't have much power.

 

[Klint]

Already alittle of toppic.
Dirac in minidsp vs Denons avc 3700 Audyssey .

 

[abdo123]

I am but old Burr DAC there says to me no thanks. Denon is at least there regarding deacent mid LPS speakers tho it doesn't have much power.

If 108 SINAD is too low for you then this forum has really spoiled you! hahahaha

Specially considering 90% of content is CD quality so 96 is the theoretical maximum

 

[ZolaIII]

If 108 SINAD is too low for you then this forum has really spoiled you! hahahaha

Specially considering 90% of content is CD quality so 96 is the theoretical maximum

Sorry 108 dB SINAD where? Make that 99% content.

 

[abdo123]

Sorry 108 dB SINAD where? Make that 99% content.

the DAC of the MiniDSP SHD Power.

90 dB SINAD for the power amplifier.

 

[ZolaIII]

the DAC of the MiniDSP SHD Power.

90 dB SINAD for the power amplifier.

Quite don't believe that regarding DAC, do you have measurements?
If it's 90/90 dB than congrats it's better than Denon (as there's no use of DAC being better than power amp nor do I see much of a benefit of DSD support on ESS lacking on Burr).

 

[abdo123]

Quite don't believe that regarding DAC, do you have measurements?
If it's 90/90 dB than congrats it's better than Denon (as there's no use of DAC being better than power amp nor do I see much of a benefit of DSD support on ESS lacking on Burr).

yes it's been measured by Amir on this forum.

 

[ZolaIII]

yes it's been measured by Amir on this forum.

Found it it's 88 dB regarding power out and it's better than Denon (two dB) congratulations.

 

[ZolaIII]

@abdo123 hmmm it doesn't officially support Air play tho it work's true Volumio but question is for how long and some folks actually complain about distortion with Air play.
https://www.minidsp.com/forum/shd-series/16317-does-the-shd-support-airplay
As usual there are problems with hi integrated streamers tho we tried. To bad second harmonic harms the SINAD on Denon so much or it would go above 90 dB but that's entirely their fault.