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As far as recordings go (not predators), it may be beneficial to watch this from 5:30 on:
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Phase distortion in the studio basically kills natural perception of space - which is offset by an artificial impression of space provided by track manipulation.What about the humongous amounts of phase distortion that musicians introduce in the studio? What about the diffusers that are used in many recording venues? What about the room reflection that are inherent in many recordings, such as concert halls?
Jim
a couple of things here...As far as recordings go (not predators), it may be beneficial to watch this from 5:30 on:
But the very best recordings I have heard, the ones that really do sound acoustically "real" (when heard on a properly set up system) - yes, for those phase is very important.
Given those symmetric properties, and the uncertainty (academically) with regards to phase impacts on imaging perception, why wouldn't you do your best to maintain phase correctness!?
Agreed...Would it be correct (or not) to say that phase only matters to the degree that it is audible to the listener?
Jim
Credo la diffrazione ai bordi sia una distorsione di fase, questo è misurato e non tutti lo sentono. La risposta all'impulso viene misurata ma non tutti la percepisconoSarebbe corretto (o no) dire che la fase conta solo nella misura in cui è udibile dall'ascoltatore?
Credo la diffrazione ai bordi sia una distorsione di fase, questo è misurato e non tutti lo sentono. La risposta all'impulso viene misurata ma non tutti la percepiscono
1.If It's impossible to know what's the real size of the soundstage In the recording unless you were in the studio
And if pretty much every system /spearkers have a different sized soundstage
How can you know if your system / speakers create an accurate soundstage ?
2. Is soundstage and imaging the same thing ?
Yeah so the question is how do you know if your system is faithful to the soundstage/imaging that's on the recordingEven in a studio, the musicians could all be performing in isolation rooms, so that may not prove anything for soundstage/imaging...
Yeah so the question is how do you know if your system is faithful to the soundstage/imaging that's on the recording
Doesn't it make the soundstage artificially small ?Yeah, listen with small enough stereo listening triangle That takes most of the local room away, and you hear whas on the recorging. Local room just disturbs it quite easily.
Doesn't it make the soundstage artificially small ?
it will depend a lot on the quality and amplitude of the dispersion (polar pattern) of the loudspeaker and on the acoustic treatment of the wall behind the loudspeakersSento sempre persone affermare che i muri sono inferiori ai normali altoparlanti quando si tratta di spazialità e palcoscenico, ma non capisco perché.
La parete frontale dovrebbe influenzare solo i bassi perché è omnidirezionale.
It can, lack of strong lateral reflections seems to make stereo sound constrained roughly in between speaker but you just have to adjust the listening triangle where it doesn't matter, where the sound appears "natural" to you, not too wide, not too narrow. I have my speakers roughly at 45deg from media plane, bit wider than a equilateral triangle nevertheless, right where I seem to like it for some reason. But, now there is very big sound, sound that's in the recording, local room turns into envelopment and the recording comes through with clarity. Soundstage can be big or in your face dry depending on what is on the recording, there seems to be 3D kind of quality to the perception when system and local room doesn't break it.Doesn't it make the soundstage artificially small ?
Does it even make sense to assume that there would be a difference in soundstage at all?