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Some food for thought about the effect of high frequencies in audio power amplifier

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The influence of high frequencies (radio frequencies and beyond) on electronic circuits is sometimes put forward as a possible cause to explain audible effects or subjective assessments of the sound quality of a specific device in an audio chain. Notwithstanding the difficulties in establishing and confirming the reality of what is claimed to be heard, especially when the audible effects are presented as being subtle or difficult to describe, or when they are evanescent or circumstantial, I have yet read only anecdotal evidence on the effects of supposed high frequencies or hypotheses on the mechanism by which these high frequencies could influence the irrevocably audible frequency band (20 Hz to 20 kHz).

However, a few years ago I was able to note the appearance, in some application notes and datasheets recently published by manufacturers of integrated circuits, of a relatively new specification concerning integrated operational amplifiers (op amp): the rate of EMIRR (for EMI Rejection Ratio), which is therefore a rejection rate of common modes (the signals between each of the inputs of an op amp and the ground) specifically measured in the high frequency domain. This specification is applicable to some integrated op amps which are sensitive to radio-frequency interference: they see their offset voltage vary depending on the level and frequency spectrum of this interference. Manufacturers of integrated circuits have therefore been able to identify an effect of high frequencies which modifies an operating parameter of their integrated op amps (not all are equal in the face of this phenomenon). That being said, I only mention this subject to illustrate the fact that the influence of high frequencies is neither a myth nor a simple hypothesis. I am not claiming that the phenomenon assessed by this particular specification necessarily matters in audio.

But I finally came across several documents published by Japanese authors which clearly highlighted the influence of high frequencies (from the order of megahertz to hundreds of megahertz) in the audio band analyzed at the output of different power amplifiers. The phenomenon described in these documents is in itself nothing new: it involves intermodulation distortion measurements in the presence of a composite signal of two close frequencies of the same level.

If the phenomenon described by the Japanese is nothing new, what is, to my knowledge, unprecedented is the realization and especially the publication of intermodulation measurements in the audio band with very high frequency excitation signals. These experiment is therefore worth a discussion.

I will rely on one of the documents that I mentioned: The influence of non-audible plural high frequency electrical noise on the playback sound of audio equipment (2nd report), by N. Kimura and T . Yoshida (reference: IOP Conf. Series: Journal of Physics: Conf. Series 1234567890 1075 (2018) 012006; DOI: 10.1088/1742-6596/1075/1/012006). This document being published under the Creative Commons license, I am attaching this document below, without alteration or modification.

Here are illustrations taken from this document.

The experimental setup used by the authors is as follows:

dispositif-experimental.png


There is nothing special to report: an arbitrary function generator is programmed to produce two sinusoidal frequencies which are mixed to create a composite signal injected directly into the input of the device under test (shown in salmon color), of which the output is observed using a well-known Audio Precision APx525 analyzer. The two frequencies are chosen such that second-order intermodulation produces a frequency of 2,017 hertz (Hz), right in the midrange in the audio band. The 2nd order intermodulation is the frequency which corresponds to the difference (in hertz) of the two frequencies of the test signal. The attenuator before the device under test is only used to make measurements at different excitation signal levels. The gains of the different amplifiers are aligned to obtain the same output level of 0 dBV (1 V RMS) on a sine of 2,017 Hz.

The authors tested six amplifiers of different brands and models: three linear amplifiers and three switching amplifiers (i.e. class D amplifiers). The brands and references of the amplifiers have not been disclosed by the authors. They carried out measurements on each device by varying the first frequency of the composite signal from 0.1 MHz (100 kHz) to 100 MHz. They also carried out measurements with a composite signal whose amplitude was varied from -35 dBV (17.8 mV RMS) to 0 dBV (1 V RMS).

Here are excerpts from the measurement results.

This graph shows the level of 2nd order distortion (the frequency of 2,017 Hz) measured at the output of each amplifier as a function of the first frequency of the composite signal for a test signal level of 0 dBV:

influence-hf-fonction-frequence.png


A, B and C are the linear amplifiers; D, E and F the class D amplifiers. We can see that the behavior of each device is very different and independent of the class of amplification. We can also see that with an excitation signal of 1 V RMS, some amplifiers produce, at some frequencies of the excitation signal, a 2nd order distortion greater than -40 dB (1%) or even -20 dB (10%).

But 1 V RMS is a rather very high signal amplitude for high frequencies. The authors therefore also measured the amplifiers at different excitation signal levels. Here is a graph which summarizes these results for the three worst amplifiers according to the previous measurement, the A and the C (linear amplifiers) and the E (class D amplifier; this is the previous E device and not the F, which is clearly a typographical error), each of them being measured with a composite signal whose first frequency corresponds to the worst case previously observed:

influence-hf-fonction-niveau.png


The dotted curves are the average curves deduced from the measurement points. We can see with relief that the intermodulation distortion decreases with the level of the high frequency signal. To get the idea, -20 dBV corresponds to 100 mV RMS.

What preliminary lessons can we learn from these results? In fact, in my opinion, they open up more questions than answers. The signal injection mode (directly at the amplifier input) is not normally representative of a real practical case (subject to what follows in the penultimate paragraph). But with high frequencies, you have to be careful: the point of injection for parasitic signals are sometimes unexpected, especially as you go up in frequency. The levels of the excitation signals still seem very high to me. That being said, there is clearly a phenomenon to be observed and, possibly, to take into account, and one may wonder whether specification or measurements of high frequency susceptibility would not be useful information for assessing the performance of an amplifier. Indeed, all amplifiers are clearly not equal when it comes to high frequencies, regardless of the amplification technique used. Finally, these measurements were carried out with a relatively simple high frequency excitation signal. What about more complex, variable, or broad-spectrum signals?

One last word. If, obviously, all amplifiers do not have the same susceptibility to high frequencies, this is undoubtedly due to their design or their manufacturing quality, or perhaps simply to the adherence or not by the designer or manufacturer to good practices. In general, it is recommended to limit the bandwidth of an amplifier directly at the input to avoid, or at least mitigate, possible problems brought by high frequencies. Was this the case for the amplifiers that were tested? More generally, the problem in the audiophile world is that many designs put on the market deviate from good or common practices for obscure and sometimes irrational reasons. This isn't just true for amplifiers. If the level of high frequency signals which was used for the test seems very high and, at first analysis, not typical of what one may encounter in the real world, we must not forget that some audiophile sources sometimes have unusual characteristics which approach these levels. Without naming a brand, we can for example wonder what the amplifier C above would produce with a non-oversampling filterless DAC or a SA-CD/DSD DAC with inadequate low-pass filtering connected to it.

Isn't it time to investigate in more detail the performance of analog devices when they are subjected, voluntarily or involuntarily, to high frequency signals to remove any doubt about their behavior?
 

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Unless the amplifier is used next to an airport transmitter, why should we bother? What does all this mean for modern performance in the audio band?

Jim
 
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I'm afraid I do not get your point. The authors of the above discussed paper specifically designed a test set-up to measure 2nd order intermodulation distorsion product at 2,017 Hz, right in the audio band (20 Hz-20 kHz).

For me, it's the amplitude level of the test signal and the mode of injection into the devices under test (DUT) that I find questionable (except the use-case of filterless non-oversampling DAC which are fashionable in some audiophile circles).

But nevertheless, I think that this rare experiment deserves some follow-up considering the widely different responses of the 6 tested amplifiers.

I should also have pointed out that the DUT were only measured in small signal condition (1 V RMS output).
 
I'm afraid I do not get your point. The authors of the above discussed paper specifically designed a test set-up to measure 2nd order intermodulation distorsion product at 2,017 Hz, right in the audio band (20 Hz-20 kHz).

For me, it's the amplitude level of the test signal and the mode of injection into the devices under test (DUT) that I find questionable (except the use-case of filterless non-oversampling DAC which are fashionable in some audiophile circles).

But nevertheless, I think that this rare experiment deserves some follow-up considering the widely different responses of the 6 tested amplifiers.

I should also have pointed out that the DUT were only measured in small signal condition (1 V RMS output).

I apologize, and will try to be more clear. It's possible that we are asking the same questions.

Over 20 years ago, I knew of 2 devices that malfunctioned, both within 2 blocks of an airport. One was an electronically controlled oven, which would perform erratically, even to the point of turning on spontaneously. The second was a stereo amplifier that sounded "weak" and ran very hot.
The oven problem was cured by attaching ferrite beads to the wiring harness (per factory tech help). The amp was an older solid-state design from the '70s. It was replaced with a modern amp. The replacement amp exhibited more-than-adequate power and ran cool.

In both cases, there has been no further problems in that neighborhood.

At that time, two comments were made. One (from the oven manufacturer) was that " ... the level of EMI at that location was extremely high." The other comment (from a local telecommunications retailer) was that amplifiers manufactured more recently benefited from advances in shielding that may not have been implemented on earlier designs.

So I have two questions:
1) What level of real-world EMI would cause the level of effect shown in your first chart, considering well-designed modern amplifiers?
2) Considering the advances in modern amplifiers dealing with EMI, why should we worry about effects within the audio band? Is not the point now moot?

If I am off track on this, please tell me so. I don't claim to be a genius. ;)

Jim
 
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Thanks for the clarification.

I wonder if the point is moot even nowadays considering the widely different results of the 6 DUT obtained by the Japanese authors. Apparently, not all 6 tested amplifiers were created equal regarding EMI susceptibility or lack of. I would have love to see more amplifiers tested in order to get a statistically significant number of samples.

As of your first question, I share it. I am no specialist in that area, but I cannot imagine a real-world EMI case that would resemble the situation tested in the above discussed study, but for one possible case : the out of band spectrum of some questionable digital to analogue converter designs.
 
I also wish to introduced you to another paper in which the authors have searched for increase of hum level (50 to 300 Hz) in 5 audio power amplifiers (three linear amps and two class D amps) when subjecting their respective inputs with a single HF tone (from 1 to 240 MHz in 0.5 MHz steps, 1 V RMS) : https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/1075/1/012031

Here are the results :

influence-hf-ronflement.png
 
Many years ago I was building a preamp and it turned-out to be an RF oscillator! It fried one channel in my power amp.

I eventually got the preamp working and the power amp repaired. My tweeters survived, probably because they are inductive (high impedance at high frequencies).
 
Bandwidth-limiting can be very useful! Why risk my hearing and tweeters attempting to reproduce content that I cannot hear (at least not as pure tones), and which few audio transducers can play at any significant volume? In the past, I have experienced degraded sound quality due to an amplifier's misbehavior at ultrasonic frequencies, and it was readily audible, and measurable. I implemented 30 kHz low-pass filtering, and that was the end of my amplifier problems.
 
I'm far from expert in this area, but wouldn't it take a huge amount of EMI to produce 1V at the amp inputs?

Also, how common is it to have not one, but two (or more) interfering signals in the MHz+ range where the frequencies are 20khz or less apart?

I think this experiment does show plausible audible effects from EMI but I'm not sure whether it used realistic conditions or not... something tells me not really, since otherwise we'd see people posting about this kind of IMD all the time.
 
How many hundreds of thousands if not millions of people live under a mile of a TV or radio transmitter? There's 20+ stations broadcasting from the Empire State Building in NYC alone, how many in population centers around the world?

Like kemmler3d said if this was a problem we'd be hearing about it all the time.
 
This graph shows the level of 2nd order distortion (the frequency of 2,017 Hz) measured at the output of each amplifier as a function of the first frequency of the composite signal for a test signal level of 0 dBV:

influence-hf-fonction-frequence.png


A, B and C are the linear amplifiers; D, E and F the class D amplifiers. We can see that the behaviour of each device is very different and independent of the class of amplification. We can also see that with an excitation signal of 1 V RMS, some amplifiers produce, at some frequencies of the excitation signal, a 2nd order distortion greater than -40 dB (1%) or even -20 dB (10%).
It would be clearer if they identified the amps in question too.


JSmith
 
I dealt with a handful of domestic amplifiers in a building within the grounds of a very high power transmitter and mast. Most seemed OK.

If the case is properly put together and the case joints make good electrical contact with each other and the case is earthed, and inputs are differential and the inputs and outputs behave sensibly, the device should be OK. Transmitter rooms are filled with a great deal of audio and video gear which needs to keep functioning even when exposed to lots of RF.

But domestic homes now have more RF generated inside them than ever before. I suspect some exotic gear designed around some unsound "theory" may have poor IMD. Perhaps this accounts for the difference people perceive.
 
I apologize, and will try to be more clear. It's possible that we are asking the same questions.

Over 20 years ago, I knew of 2 devices that malfunctioned, both within 2 blocks of an airport. One was an electronically controlled oven, which would perform erratically, even to the point of turning on spontaneously. The second was a stereo amplifier that sounded "weak" and ran very hot.
The oven problem was cured by attaching ferrite beads to the wiring harness (per factory tech help). The amp was an older solid-state design from the '70s. It was replaced with a modern amp. The replacement amp exhibited more-than-adequate power and ran cool.

In both cases, there has been no further problems in that neighborhood.

At that time, two comments were made. One (from the oven manufacturer) was that " ... the level of EMI at that location was extremely high." The other comment (from a local telecommunications retailer) was that amplifiers manufactured more recently benefited from advances in shielding that may not have been implemented on earlier designs.

So I have two questions:
1) What level of real-world EMI would cause the level of effect shown in your first chart, considering well-designed modern amplifiers?
2) Considering the advances in modern amplifiers dealing with EMI, why should we worry about effects within the audio band? Is not the point now moot?

If I am off track on this, please tell me so. I don't claim to be a genius. ;)

Jim
I lived next to a Naval Air Station and was unable to receive broadcast TV (digital) without frequent interference, despite being a straight shot to the transmitters.

I worked for a company that was a couple blocks from an AM station. Their broadcast was received by the PA speakers.
 
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Thanks for posting. It is a good science and engineering question. The original engineers must have had a reason for their research. I apologize in advance for not reading the entire paper.

In one of my many jobs, I worked on digital wireless standards, so a deep dive into digital modulation and real world use cases.

Both analog and digital power amplifiers incorporate bandwidth limiting filters in their designs. You don't want your analog amplifer to become an oscillator. Digital amplifiers have a lot of high frequency interference inside the box that is filtered out.

As the OP noted, the injected RF levels in the paper are very high. Arbitrary waveform generators have a lot of harmonics, especially in the age of the one used in their test setup, and RF mixers are not harmonically pure either. So it would be a good idea to measure the input signal purity before the amplifier under test.

In the real world, we are flooded by a few high power transmitters and a sea of low power digital transmitters. A simplified view of digital transmitters is that they broadcast many tones simultaneously, digital carriers. So you can search "[radio system] carrier spacing kHz." The spacing is getting narrower to pack more information into the channels, channel spacing is in the audio range, and we are developing better A-D & D-A converters to modulate and demodulate the carriers - reducing the carrier spacing. A carrier fits into the bit time of the wireless specification. Typically that is under 100 microseconds. The carriers go on or off every 66 microseconds for LTE. What is the resolution of the cochlea and auditory cortex for a transient event of that length?

I don't have the answer to the original question. I think with proper shielding, grounding, and filtering it is unlikely that RF demodulation contributes to subjective or objective degradation of audio.

BTW, I just went to a seminar by test equipment maker Rohde and Schwarz. I knew most of the material, but hey, free lunch! They are a family and insider owned company which can afford to make extremely fine equipment. HP and Tektronix lost that culture under the pressure of quarterly returns, competition, and buy-outs. The R&S website has a lot of videos of their seminars. Their RF testing and EMC seminars might be interesting to ASR's continuous learners.
 
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It is well known, that RF entering an input stage may get demodulated on the nonlinear transfer function of a BJT or FET that sits in the input stage. I may remind to the first radio receiver - a detector receiver using some sort of germanium diode.

A reasonable design should efficiently keep away frequencies from its input that it cannot handle properly. This is one of the good reasons for wideband circuit design - when you can handle 1 MHz properly, you can afford to set the input filter at e.g. 100 kHz.
I recently bought a HPA and as far as I measured, there's no filter in the input, since this might degrade the nice noise specs...

At this point ferrite beads come into play. They do offer low resistance in the audio band (and thus low voltage noise) yet they serve as filter and even get lossy for RF. Perfect behaviour :)
Just make sure to choose values such that the bead is sufficiently lossy at the LC resonant frequency (L: bead, C: filter capacitor)
 
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Of course RF can enter a unit as well through the output.
The mandatory EMI capacitor at the line output jack and the usual series resistor between the actual output stage and the output jack should usually suffice.
For power amps the L||R series element (isolate capacitance connected directly to the output to safeguard stability when low inductive, high capacitance speaker cables are used) should do a good enough job.
 
The influence of high frequencies (radio frequencies and beyond) on electronic circuits is sometimes put forward as a possible cause to explain audible effects or subjective assessments of the sound quality of a specific device in an audio chain. Notwithstanding the difficulties in establishing and confirming the reality of what is claimed to be heard, especially when the audible effects are presented as being subtle or difficult to describe, or when they are evanescent or circumstantial, I have yet read only anecdotal evidence on the effects of supposed high frequencies or hypotheses on the mechanism by which these high frequencies could influence the irrevocably audible frequency band (20 Hz to 20 kHz).

However, a few years ago I was able to note the appearance, in some application notes and datasheets recently published by manufacturers of integrated circuits, of a relatively new specification concerning integrated operational amplifiers (op amp): the rate of EMIRR (for EMI Rejection Ratio), which is therefore a rejection rate of common modes (the signals between each of the inputs of an op amp and the ground) specifically measured in the high frequency domain. This specification is applicable to some integrated op amps which are sensitive to radio-frequency interference: they see their offset voltage vary depending on the level and frequency spectrum of this interference. Manufacturers of integrated circuits have therefore been able to identify an effect of high frequencies which modifies an operating parameter of their integrated op amps (not all are equal in the face of this phenomenon). That being said, I only mention this subject to illustrate the fact that the influence of high frequencies is neither a myth nor a simple hypothesis. I am not claiming that the phenomenon assessed by this particular specification necessarily matters in audio.

But I finally came across several documents published by Japanese authors which clearly highlighted the influence of high frequencies (from the order of megahertz to hundreds of megahertz) in the audio band analyzed at the output of different power amplifiers. The phenomenon described in these documents is in itself nothing new: it involves intermodulation distortion measurements in the presence of a composite signal of two close frequencies of the same level.

If the phenomenon described by the Japanese is nothing new, what is, to my knowledge, unprecedented is the realization and especially the publication of intermodulation measurements in the audio band with very high frequency excitation signals. These experiment is therefore worth a discussion.

I will rely on one of the documents that I mentioned: The influence of non-audible plural high frequency electrical noise on the playback sound of audio equipment (2nd report), by N. Kimura and T . Yoshida (reference: IOP Conf. Series: Journal of Physics: Conf. Series 1234567890 1075 (2018) 012006; DOI: 10.1088/1742-6596/1075/1/012006). This document being published under the Creative Commons license, I am attaching this document below, without alteration or modification.

Here are illustrations taken from this document.

The experimental setup used by the authors is as follows:

View attachment 379615

There is nothing special to report: an arbitrary function generator is programmed to produce two sinusoidal frequencies which are mixed to create a composite signal injected directly into the input of the device under test (shown in salmon color), of which the output is observed using a well-known Audio Precision APx525 analyzer. The two frequencies are chosen such that second-order intermodulation produces a frequency of 2,017 hertz (Hz), right in the midrange in the audio band. The 2nd order intermodulation is the frequency which corresponds to the difference (in hertz) of the two frequencies of the test signal. The attenuator before the device under test is only used to make measurements at different excitation signal levels. The gains of the different amplifiers are aligned to obtain the same output level of 0 dBV (1 V RMS) on a sine of 2,017 Hz.

The authors tested six amplifiers of different brands and models: three linear amplifiers and three switching amplifiers (i.e. class D amplifiers). The brands and references of the amplifiers have not been disclosed by the authors. They carried out measurements on each device by varying the first frequency of the composite signal from 0.1 MHz (100 kHz) to 100 MHz. They also carried out measurements with a composite signal whose amplitude was varied from -35 dBV (17.8 mV RMS) to 0 dBV (1 V RMS).

Here are excerpts from the measurement results.

This graph shows the level of 2nd order distortion (the frequency of 2,017 Hz) measured at the output of each amplifier as a function of the first frequency of the composite signal for a test signal level of 0 dBV:

View attachment 379619

A, B and C are the linear amplifiers; D, E and F the class D amplifiers. We can see that the behavior of each device is very different and independent of the class of amplification. We can also see that with an excitation signal of 1 V RMS, some amplifiers produce, at some frequencies of the excitation signal, a 2nd order distortion greater than -40 dB (1%) or even -20 dB (10%).

But 1 V RMS is a rather very high signal amplitude for high frequencies. The authors therefore also measured the amplifiers at different excitation signal levels. Here is a graph which summarizes these results for the three worst amplifiers according to the previous measurement, the A and the C (linear amplifiers) and the E (class D amplifier; this is the previous E device and not the F, which is clearly a typographical error), each of them being measured with a composite signal whose first frequency corresponds to the worst case previously observed:

View attachment 379620

The dotted curves are the average curves deduced from the measurement points. We can see with relief that the intermodulation distortion decreases with the level of the high frequency signal. To get the idea, -20 dBV corresponds to 100 mV RMS.

What preliminary lessons can we learn from these results? In fact, in my opinion, they open up more questions than answers. The signal injection mode (directly at the amplifier input) is not normally representative of a real practical case (subject to what follows in the penultimate paragraph). But with high frequencies, you have to be careful: the point of injection for parasitic signals are sometimes unexpected, especially as you go up in frequency. The levels of the excitation signals still seem very high to me. That being said, there is clearly a phenomenon to be observed and, possibly, to take into account, and one may wonder whether specification or measurements of high frequency susceptibility would not be useful information for assessing the performance of an amplifier. Indeed, all amplifiers are clearly not equal when it comes to high frequencies, regardless of the amplification technique used. Finally, these measurements were carried out with a relatively simple high frequency excitation signal. What about more complex, variable, or broad-spectrum signals?

One last word. If, obviously, all amplifiers do not have the same susceptibility to high frequencies, this is undoubtedly due to their design or their manufacturing quality, or perhaps simply to the adherence or not by the designer or manufacturer to good practices. In general, it is recommended to limit the bandwidth of an amplifier directly at the input to avoid, or at least mitigate, possible problems brought by high frequencies. Was this the case for the amplifiers that were tested? More generally, the problem in the audiophile world is that many designs put on the market deviate from good or common practices for obscure and sometimes irrational reasons. This isn't just true for amplifiers. If the level of high frequency signals which was used for the test seems very high and, at first analysis, not typical of what one may encounter in the real world, we must not forget that some audiophile sources sometimes have unusual characteristics which approach these levels. Without naming a brand, we can for example wonder what the amplifier C above would produce with a non-oversampling filterless DAC or a SA-CD/DSD DAC with inadequate low-pass filtering connected to it.

Isn't it time to investigate in more detail the performance of analog devices when they are subjected, voluntarily or involuntarily, to high frequency signals to remove any doubt about their behavior?
Nice!

There is also some more arcane stuff with speaker cables and being able to get RF oscillations in an amplifier.
Some of that is wrapped up in Zobel networks being used on the speaker cables to keep the impedance high at the higher freqs.
 
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