I just tested Roon with DX3Pro and there is no clicking at all when seeking. Ditto for switching songs, etc. So this is something to do with foobar2000.
My Foobar2000 does not do that either.
Yuno are you using 1.4 beta 6?
It is very stable.
I just tested Roon with DX3Pro and there is no clicking at all when seeking. Ditto for switching songs, etc. So this is something to do with foobar2000.
We don't know. There is some rise in distortion in mid levels. It is not something I have noticed in listening to a lot of DACs with this issue.1- is the ESS hump audible? if so, what does it really do?
Topping changed DAC chips from ESS to AKM and hence the reason the hump is no longer there. It is a new design.2- does the DX3Pro's solution to the ESS Hump make it audibly disappear?
The reason to get DX3Pro is if you need a headphone output which neither the D10 or D50 have. It also has Bluetooth if you need it.3- since the DX3Pro is able to kill the ESS Hump but lose in other metrics, is this loss noticeable and worth it over the D10 and the D50? If noticeable, should we wait for Topping to adjust to the new DAC chip?
Not really. It is usually my opinion of whether there are any design mistakes and overall performance.Is there an article on this forum that explains how each measurements is weighted in the final recommendation verdict (say how much % is prioritized on the "SINAD" performance vs the "intermodulation distortion versus level" performance) to help us get some perspective, say on the ESS-Hump ESS devices (The topping ESS implementation) vs less-ESS-hump ESS devices (like the SMSL M8)?
When I operated according to the advice, 8 - 8 was displayed and it was OK.Hi there. I played with it and figured it out.
Unplug the unit and hold the volume knob down and plug power back in. You should see F-X where X is your filter setting. Push in and hold until you see 88. Let go and it will go dark and power/down. I think this is the reset.
My Foobar2000 does not do that either.
Yuno are you using 1.4 beta 6?
It is very stable.
1.4.1. But this is not foobar specific issue, it was also happening in firefox.
I'm also getting quite a lot of clicks by using citrix. I connect remotely to work via citrix receiver and that too seems to produce clicks quite frequently. Not sure why because sampling rate is always 192kHz.
So far I noticed that each message that I get via Lync is triggering a click.
Set sound to 32bit/44.1kHz. Turned off exclusive mode in windows settings. Now the only sampling rate it can use is 44.1kHz. Still clicking... It's switching from 44.1 to 44.1.
Sorry to hear that. When I had an issue, I just turned off the computer and unplugged DX3pro and then everything was fine. Perhaps a reset could be a good idea. Contacting Topping could be an idea.
Sadly I already tried to reset the unit, and tested it on 2 different devices. If this entire constant resampling thing is not a default behavior then my unit is defective. If it is default behavior then this unit is defective by design. Either way this is not behavior I've ever seen before on dac or soundcard.
I don't think I'm even going to bother contacting topping, if it's defective then it's straight dispute via aliexpress.
Ok, here is an interesting update. Somehow clicking stopped, I changed output device in foobar2k to primary sound driver and other than being stuck with 44.1kHz I can hear no clicks whatsoever. Now it's behaving how I would expect dac with static sampling rate to behave. Interesting thing is that I already tested something like this before (except I chose DS: Speakers DX3-Pro instead of primary sound driver) and it didn't do much. By the way, this is without topping driver, which I uninstalled.
I guess for now I'm happy that my dx3 pro is done clicking. It seems that in the end foobar wasapi implementation was the culprit here. I'm not really sure how exactly since I had it stopped most of the time, especially when I was working.
Did you try going to properties for sound in windows, shared mode can be switched to different setting, and should go up to 24/192.
Personally, I don't like this solution as everything gets upsampled. I'm not clear what is processing the sound in this setup, is it DX3pro or is it the computer chip?
There is no clear distinction between them. The D50 is superior in low level detail. The DX3 Pro has less intermodulation distortion. I like the fact that DX3 Pro has a remote.sooo, if I have no need for the amp section, do I want the D50 or the DX3Pro? I read quite extensively through stuff on the D50, but then saw this thread.
Toslink is a 35 years old tech - always choose coaxDamn ;/ TOSLINK performance regarding jitter suppression is not too good - checked it out too late ; / I was looking at coaxial performance earlier as SPDIF. Still worth a try, I can always send it back if I don't like it. For great jitter reduction and all in one combo for headphones when using TOSLINK, there will be only RME or Benchmark I guess and these cost much more.
Or maybe I will just use noisy USB connection, hoping that they put a bit of effort to filter/isolate things out there.
Toslink is a 35 years old tech