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That’s exactly how I set up my speakers originally! Lol. If you’re interested in the Master Set technique I’ve compiled a doc that has five different sets of instructions, all with slightly different details in different areas (toe-in at the start vs after anchor has been set, etc).Hello,
I have been following your thread and I like what you are doing. A future project of mine is to do something similar, once I get set up to use REW, etc.
I have my speakers set up a lot different than you do. And I have never ever done anything in/with/etc. REW. In fact I still play discs, but I have the capability to run REW once I get a microphone. It would be a great way to see what I have.
Here is how I have my speakers set:
https://www.audioaficionado.org/showthread.php?t=46634 . I follow the instructions in Post #2, to the letter.
This is a process, called a few different things which do not matter. It is a great way to place speakers in a room and lets one free to sit in a much larger area than the single spot still as a statue way that I read you are doing.
I should add that I first heard speakers set this way back in 2007 at an exhibit room at RMAF. Over time I learned how to do this and became successful in doing it. The above instructions allowed me to fine tune and tweak what I already had. The instructions themselves are the way to go about this, and they give very precise descriptions was what to do and what to listen for. I recommend the Ballad of Runaway Horse song for doing this as it works very very well, and better than anything else.
You may want to try this and see how it goes. I would think the use of REW in the process could be quite useful, and you are well versed in this.
And if you don't like the results you can always just move your speaker back to their current position, as you have them well marked and documented in the room.
Keep up the experimenting and posting of results.
Steve
I emailed Bob Robbins of https://www.myspeakersetup.com/ extensively while first setting up my speakers. I can give you all his advice as well but I’d suggest paying for Bob’s personal advice if this is the route you want to go. He’s super helpful and replies quickly. I’ve shown him all my REW results as well and he thought it was super interesting but he’s definitely a listen with your heart as a guide guy.
Having said that my current process of starting with Master Set then using REW sweeps has netted much better results than I was able to do only by ear and “listening with my heart” as Bob advises.
For example, my speakers bass response sounded quite good with my speaker closer to the wall but I would never have known of the massive 140hz suck out at that spot if I hadn’t measured with REW.
If I’m honest I don’t think it’s possible due to the physics of sound reproduction to have more than one perfect listening spot for the fully immersive 3-D soundstage I’ve described. Sure, the speakers sound great and “disappear” anywhere along the mid-line, but there’s only one exact spot where you can step “through the wall” and into the room of the recording. It’s the physical place in space relative to where the microphone was during the recording. Put your head there and BOOM, mind is blown.
Just my two cents from what I’ve found in my listening room through very exacting placement tinkering! Enjoy the tinker!
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