New Hypex Nilai500DIY modules )

[daniboun]

Hi amigos,

Seems that Hypex is full of nice touches this year)
After the NCOREx technology , here the Nilai500DIY for DIY market )

Measurements seem promising checkout :

The THD+N at 100W in 4 ohms is 0,00015% from 20 – 20.000Hz,

Hypex Presents New Nilai500 DIY Audio Amplifier Module

Following the announcement of the new and improved NCOREx Class-D amplifier technology, Hypex has also reserved a surprise for this year's High End Show in Munich. In a completely separate announcement, Hypex will be launching the Nilai500DIY module, which is specified to deliver 500W with 1%...

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[Matias]

Nice, the Nilai is around 0.00022% THD+N in 5W and 4 ohms which is SINAD 113, excellent.

Amplifier SINAD list ASR + 3rd parties

docs.google.com

 

[abdo123]

very attractive little thing!

 

[HarmonicTHD]

Neat.

What’s so special DIY about them though? Don’t they sell their other modules into the DIY market too? Or only OEM? Thx.

 

[daniboun]

Neat.

What’s so special DIY about them though? Don’t they sell their other modules into the DIY market too? Or only OEM? Thx.

NC400 / NC500 > DIY Market
NCXXXMP serie > OEM
NILAI500 / PS500DIY > DIY Market (will replace NC400 /NC500 soon) but I am afraid about the price )

 

[Matias]

NC400 / NC500 > DIY Market
NCXXXMP serie > OEM
NILAI500 / PS500DIY > DIY Market (will replace NC400 /NC500 soon) but I am afraid about the price )

I think it is more like:
NC400 / Nilai500 > DIY Market
NC / NCx / NC MP > OEM

 

[daniboun]

Yep ! I forgot to mention the NC X )

 

[daniboun]

Nice, the Nilai is around 0.00022% THD+N in 5W and 4 ohms which is SINAD 113, excellent.

Amplifier SINAD list ASR + 3rd parties

docs.google.com

You can add the Ncore X into the Sinad LIST :

Hypex Announces New and Improved NCOREx Class-D Amplifier Technology

Hypex Electronics announced a new and improved iteration of its popular NCORE Class-D amplifier technology and unveiled the NCx500 OEM, the first of a new NCOREx family of modules to be launched. According to the Dutch company, the new technology will afford at least 2x better performance...

audioxpress.com

 

[restorer-john]

From the AudioXpress link:

"As Hypex makes it clear (see interview) this is not the company's latest NCOREx technology which was announced last month. In fact, Nilai is a completely new amplifier technology. And as such, it is 10 times better than the original Ncore!

"We are extremely excited to announce this completely new Nilai Class D technology and a completely new amplifier module, the Nilai500DIY, for the DIY community. We have taken our exciting control-loop topology to a whole new level resulting in an immense performance upgrade compared to Ncore. The overall performance has increased by not less than 10 times!", says Hypex."

And silly old AudioXpress jumps on the company-driven hype bandwagon! Giddy up, you absolute clowns!

10 times better. Wow. Amazing. Let's see, shall we?

10 times better output power? Nope. Not remotely close.
10 times better signal to noise? Nope.
10 time less residual noise? Sorry.
10 times the frequency response/bandwidth? Not even near that.
10 times the warranty? No. What warranty? Do you even get a warranty?

10 times the hype and drivel? Yes! absolutely!

...the Dutch company says, is a completely new unique amplifier module that sets a new benchmark for high-end audio applications.

Benchmark for what? Self promotion?

I'll let you decide that...

 

[staticV3]

According to the company's R&D team, the massive performance — verified in the first production samples of the new Nilai500DIY module — boost results in distortion figures "that are 10 times lower, a power supply noise rejection that is 10 times higher and a reduced output impedance that has dropped by a factor of 10

That's the only "10x" stuff Hypex have claimed. Distortion, PSRR, and Zout.
None of the things you made up in the post above.

 

[Matias]

Haters gonna hate. Just another day.

 

[restorer-john]

Haters gonna hate. Just another day.

Wow! That's the best you've got? Hilarious.

How about addressing the specifics?

 

[RandomEar]

(Pretty ?) Graphs!

As noted by @boXem | audio in a previous thread, gains are not identical for the different amp measurements in this graph. You can check the sources for details, but some are unknown.

Concerning the Nilai modules: I welcome the lower idle power consumption and the inclusion of a standby PSU in the SMPS module - that should significantly reduce standby consumption. I would expect below 0.5 W (due to EU regulations). That was a relevant weaknesss of the NC122MP and NC252MP from my point of view. And 2x NC400 + SMPS1200 wasn't any better than those two integrated modules - unless combined with a dedicated standby PSU, of course.


Sources:

• Hypex UcD400
  
  https://www.samodelka.ru/pictures/data/hypex_ucd400oem.pdf
• Purifi 1ET7040SA
  
  https://en.rougeaudiodesign.com/1et7040sa
• Purifi 1ET400A
  
  https://purifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/1ET400A-Data-Sheet-1.00.pdf
• Hypex NC500
  
  https://www.hypex.nl/documenten/download/854
• Hypex Nilai500
  
  

  Hypex Presents New Nilai500 DIY Audio Amplifier Module

  Following the announcement of the new and improved NCOREx Class-D amplifier technology, Hypex has also reserved a surprise for this year's High End Show in Munich. In a completely separate announcement, Hypex will be launching the Nilai500DIY module, which is specified to deliver 500W with 1%...

  audioxpress.com
• Hypex NCx500
  
  

  Hypex Announces New and Improved NCOREx Class-D Amplifier Technology

  Hypex Electronics announced a new and improved iteration of its popular NCORE Class-D amplifier technology and unveiled the NCx500 OEM, the first of a new NCOREx family of modules to be launched. According to the Dutch company, the new technology will afford at least 2x better performance...

  audioxpress.com

 

[Matias]

Hypex Nilai500 DIY is a serious competitor for Purifi 1ET400A in power and specs, but sold directly to DIY, this will be a very popular amplifier!

 

[Stretchneck]

Nice, the Nilai is around 0.00022% THD+N in 5W and 4 ohms which is SINAD 113, excellent.

Amplifier SINAD list ASR + 3rd parties

docs.google.com

You should add this in.... https://www.newclassd.com/index.php?page=312&hv=1

What I like the look of on the Nilai is that is has more capacitance... I wonder how this one will sound...

 

[Matias]

You should add this in.... https://www.newclassd.com/index.php?page=312&hv=1

I wish I could but they need to provide power x THD+N into 4 ohms for me to get the comparable data.

 

[Matias]

Now I wonder when they will release the refreshed NCx1200 and NCx2k too.

 

[DanielT]

NILAI500 / PS500DIY > DIY Market (will replace NC400 /NC500 soon) but I am afraid about the price )

You do not have to be afraid. There will probably be a price at any time, do not worry.
Seriously,NILAI500 / PS500DIY seems really good but it will depend on the price.

From the AudioXpress link:

"As Hypex makes it clear (see interview) this is not the company's latest NCOREx technology which was announced last month. In fact, Nilai is a completely new amplifier technology. And as such, it is 10 times better than the original Ncore!

"We are extremely excited to announce this completely new Nilai Class D technology and a completely new amplifier module, the Nilai500DIY, for the DIY community. We have taken our exciting control-loop topology to a whole new level resulting in an immense performance upgrade compared to Ncore. The overall performance has increased by not less than 10 times!", says Hypex."

And silly old AudioXpress jumps on the company-driven hype bandwagon! Giddy up, you absolute clowns!

10 times better. Wow. Amazing. Let's see, shall we?

10 times better output power? Nope. Not remotely close.
10 times better signal to noise? Nope.
10 time less residual noise? Sorry.
10 times the frequency response/bandwidth? Not even near that.
10 times the warranty? No. What warranty? Do you even get a warranty?

10 times the hype and drivel? Yes! absolutely!

...the Dutch company says, is a completely new unique amplifier module that sets a new benchmark for high-end audio applications.

Benchmark for what? Self promotion?

I'll let you decide that...

If now Hypex says "not less than 10 times" ..
Silly and unnecessary statement. It is enough that they stick to objective facts. They should know that , objective facts, is exactly what the DIY community is interested in hearing more about.

 

[boXem]

H2 at -145 dB and thats all

That's really impressive.

IMD is superb too

For comparison, the 1ET400A in the same conditions, worse THD, slightly better IMD:

 

[daniboun]

You should add this in.... https://www.newclassd.com/index.php?page=312&hv=1

What I like the look of on the Nilai is that is has more capacitance... I wonder how this one will sound...

For the New class Singularity 3 I only have :

THD + N 1W 8 Ohms typ.	0.0004%​
THD + N 40W 8 Ohms typ.	0.01%​