They aren't painful now on my computer but then I am wearing Rockville M50. Downstairs through headphone amps and a bluetooth receiver they were painful on MDR7506, M50X, Superlux 681, Sperlux 668B, Beyer 770, Senn 560, AKG 361, Samson R850, Philips 9500 and Shure 440. Maybe the headphone amps or bluetooth boosted bass more than my computer. Or these headphones just don't pump up the low the way others do. But to my ears that is a crap kik drum sound. And I literally had one of those NOW THATS WHAT I CALL MUSIC, with a variety of modern dance and I kept hearing ridiculous bass and kik combos that were literally painful. Which I doubt sould bother me on KRK Rokit 5 but hooked up to my head? Too much.