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How Dangerous is AI?

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Blumlein 88 said:
I'm not sure. I think it is partly education versus job requirements and partly a persons attitude.
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Sorry, maybe there was some sarcasm in my ask.
My feeling is that you can be under-qualified for a job but being over-educated is near impossible for a human.
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pseudoid said:
Sorry, maybe there was some sarcasm in my ask.
My feeling is that you can be under-qualified for a job but being over-educated is near impossible for a human.
:facepalm:
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A person can be over educated. It's pretty easy to do if not taking into the effort of the study into account. I was common-law with a criminology grad and she went to work as a prison guard when she really wanted to be a copper. That job drove her nutters because she was over qualified.
 
Doodski said:
When I was a electrical assembler of oil and gas drilling rigs and heavy duty wheeled and tracked machinery I was way overqualified for the job. I relied on my ability to pick out mistakes and correct errors for my entertainment. So I started with drafting wiring diagrams to correct the ones the engineering dept provided which where in error. That lead to me being the official main wiring loom assembler for the 24" water well drilling truck mounted rigs. Because I heartily made sure no metal filings or swarf got into my looms and made sure they where perfect in every way. That lead to being designated for assembling the control dashboards for some pretty cool big machinery. So something came from what was basically nothing before.
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I've basically experienced a similar thing in some of my jobs. Became something of a trouble-shooter who was sent places those in my position never did normally. I suppose it is creating additional value for yourself as well as your employer.
 
pseudoid said:
Sorry, maybe there was some sarcasm in my ask.
My feeling is that you can be under-qualified for a job but being over-educated is near impossible for a human.
:facepalm:
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That is where the attitude comes in. You can be over-educated for a job certainly. Sometimes such people are bored, and do a worse job than someone much less educated if adequately educated or qualified. Some people will do the job at exceptionally high levels and find ways to not be bored.

Can anyone be over educated in general? Maybe not. They can be over-educated for the parameters of a given job for sure.
 
Blumlein 88 said:
I've basically experienced a similar thing in some of my jobs. Became something of a trouble-shooter who was sent places those in my position never did normally. I suppose it is creating additional value for yourself as well as your employer.
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We had a Chinese guy at work that became the de facto expert for coil tube drilling rigs and he was flown out maybe every month or two for service calls. Lucky guy!
 
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Back then, imho it was called automation.
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FWIW
 
Ron Texas said:
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ai-exp...esnt-enough-literally-everyone-earth-will-die

Elon Musk and 1000 other luminaries signed a letter calling for a 6 month pause in AI development. An AI expert now says that's not enough and the annihilation of humanity is the likely result if care is not taken. I'm a bit shocked. Is this guy just looking for his 15 minutes of fame or is he right? Anyone got a scientific perspective on this?
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You read Foxnews? that is dangerous !
" I can call you Betty!
Betty, when you call me, you can call me AL." Paul Simon. :)
 
Doodski said:
The education level on average exceeds peoples' actual work demands in many instances today I think. Consider a coffee shop employee. They operate electronics that do all the brain work and free them up for more time making coffee. Or a machinist now with data entry on automated machines as compared to a old vernier scale on a lathe or mill etc used for the cuts. All examples of the evil computers at work.
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machine learning may well provide more opportunities for further leisurely education too. In the interest of balance, nuclear physics has been used for good and bad things.
 
Doodski said:
Haha. Yes, some are delusional and obviously have issues but most are over educated and where prepared for more. I've been hired for jobs that where boring in their simplicity and technical requirement. An example of employers over hiring and creating a underemployed issue which can be pretty unhealthy for some.
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people making coffee or flipping burgers may seem under educated. that appearance may be due to many reasons. also, people need to desire to be better educated and im not sure how that can be done, especially with crony capitalism running the show.
 
OldenEars said:
people making coffee or flipping burgers may seem under educated. that appearance may be due to many reasons. also, people need to desire to be better educated and im not sure how that can be done, especially with crony capitalism running the show.
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Germany has it right. If a person can support the grades then university is free of tuition charges.
 
Doodski said:
A person can be over educated. It's pretty easy to do if not taking into the effort of the study into account.
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You continue mixing concepts... besides which, doesn't what you call "education" require an 'effort'? [until Neuralink kicks in... then it becomes easy]
 
OldenEars said:
people making coffee or flipping burgers may seem under educated. that appearance may be due to many reasons. also, people need to desire to be better educated and im not sure how that can be done, especially with crony capitalism running the show.
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Reminds me of being in college. A better than average university. The "burger flippers" there were students working part time for tuition money. A big difference vs "burger flippers" in fast food burger joints.
 
Blumlein 88 said:
Reminds me of being in college. A better than average university. The "burger flippers" there were students working part time for tuition money. A big difference vs "burger flippers" in fast food burger joints.
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I put myself through college washing dishes afternoons at a upscale Chinese restaurant. It was not that bad in reflection at the time.
 
I badgered Bard for a bit about this question:
Q1: Excluding jobs and financing, can a human be over educated?
Yes, it is possible for a human to be overeducated even if we exclude jobs and financing. Here are some reasons why:
• Overeducation can lead to feelings of dissatisfaction and frustration….
• Overeducation can make it difficult to find a job.
• Overeducation can lead to financial problems.

Q2: Excluding job prospects and costs, can a human be over educated
Yes, it is possible for a human to be overeducated even if we exclude job prospects and costs. Here are some reasons why:
• Overeducation can lead to feelings of dissatisfaction and frustration.
• Overeducation can make it difficult to find a job that is a good fit for their skills and interests.
• Overeducation can lead to social isolation.
• Overeducation can lead to a sense of entitlement.

Q3: Excluding employment prospects and costs, can a human be overeducated?
Whether or not a human can be overeducated is a matter of opinion. Some people believe that there is no such thing as being overeducated, while others believe that it is possible to have too much education for the job that you are doing.
From <https://bard.google.com/>
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I guess it must be a matter of opinion then. settled, in my mind!:mad:
 
You might like the ChatGPT answer better: It is subjective.

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The concept of being "over-educated" is subjective and can vary depending on individual perspectives and circumstances. Generally, education is seen as a valuable asset that enhances a person's knowledge, skills, and opportunities. However, there are a few scenarios where some might consider someone to be over-educated:

1. Job market mismatch: If a person possesses significantly higher qualifications and academic credentials than what is required for the jobs they are seeking, they may be perceived as over-educated. This situation can arise when there is a lack of suitable employment opportunities in a particular field or when someone is overqualified for a position.

2. Limited practical experience: While education provides theoretical knowledge, practical experience is also crucial for certain professions. If someone has acquired numerous degrees and academic qualifications but lacks practical experience, they may face challenges when entering the workforce or performing in certain roles.

3. Financial burden: Education often comes with financial costs, such as tuition fees and living expenses. If someone accumulates significant educational debt without the prospect of earning a sufficient income to repay it, they may find themselves in a financially burdensome situation, leading to the perception of being over-educated.

However, it's important to note that these perceptions are not absolute. Some individuals pursue education for personal growth, intellectual curiosity, or other non-career-related reasons. Additionally, higher education can equip individuals with critical thinking skills, creativity, and a broader understanding of the world, which can be valuable in various aspects of life beyond job prospects and financial considerations. Ultimately, whether a person is considered over-educated is subjective and can vary depending on societal expectations, personal goals, and individual circumstances.
 
I was being forced to DIY chatbot. So, I gave ChatGPT a chance to offer me another [?] opinion openAIn for Q3:
I think education is a lifelong process that never ends.
I agree with you. Education is not limited to formal schooling, but can also include informal learning from various sources and experiences. Education can help us expand our horizons, discover new possibilities, and challenge ourselves to grow as individuals and as members of society. Education can also be a source of joy and fulfillment, as we pursue our passions and interests.
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Yey! What a difference an openAIn makes!:rolleyes:
 
Over-education?
Palestinian Governor Porcius Festus and the Christian Apostle Paul (who was, as was oft the case, in trouble with the authorities):

24 At this point Festus interrupted Paul’s defense. “You are out of your mind, Paul!” he shouted. “Your great learning is driving you insane.”
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Acts 26:24 (NIV)

;)
 
mhardy6647 said:
Over-education?
Palestinian Governor Porcius Festus and the Christian Apostle Paul (who was, as was oft the case, in trouble with the authorities):

Acts 26:24 (NIV)
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I'll answer:
Maybe not over-educated, but way over the top and perfect injection timing.:)
[Leave it to mhardy6647++]
 
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