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High Energy Density Lithium Sulphur Battery Development

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I suggest you do your own research with the view of finding the truth. None of this happy stuff with solar, wind and electric cars is market driven. It's a result of regulations. So this thread is dancing around a prohibition on discussing a certain topic. Considering who the OP is, that's real cute.

Please don't reply to this post. I'm sick of this nonsense and people with unrealistic expectations and fears.


Tut tut from the OP. After all, you did divert the thread in post #9.
 

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If my wife wins the lottery, we'd probably get a newer Hyundai SUV. No excitement, just get me from Point A to Point B.

The big purchase would be a Cessna 172.
What does a good 172 cost these days? When I first got a license I almost purchased a couple. They weren't much more than a good recent used car in those days. What stopped me was the closest airport (which was quite close) had no open slots for keeping aircraft there and a long waiting list.
 

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Tut tut from the OP. After all, you did divert the thread in post #9.

I don't think that's a diversion. Besides, I don't understand how you Aussies keep from falling off the world considering your upside down location. Or, are the maps wrong?

Surprise, I thought you had put me on ignore.

I do agree significant advances in battery technology are important.
 

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I suggest you do your own research with the view of finding the truth. None of this happy stuff with solar, wind and electric cars is market driven. It's a result of regulations. So this thread is dancing around a prohibition on discussing a certain topic. Considering who the OP is, that's real cute.

Please don't reply to this post. I'm sick of this nonsense and people with unrealistic expectations and fears.

I've done the research. I have the numbers.

You are wrong.
 

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What does a good 172 cost these days? When I first got a license I almost purchased a couple. They weren't much more than a good recent used car in those days. What stopped me was the closest airport (which was quite close) had no open slots for keeping aircraft there and a long waiting list.

I rather pull out my mastercard and buy a ticket on United.
 

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Here it is (despite your promise to be done with this or sick of it):




105 million and maybe as many as 2 billion parking spaces in the United States . A third of them are in parking lots


NYTimes, Jan. 2012





1/3 * 100 million = 33 million





parking space = 9* 18 ft = 162 ft2





5.35e9 ft2 = 192 mile2








Area needed for 100% PV power for ALL US energy needs (~4 PW)


= 21,250 mile2 in 2010 (~0.5% of land area) for 13.5% PV panel eff.








https://www.freeingenergy.com/how-much-solar-would-it-take-to-power-the-u-s/





* some assembly required; but by inspection if not by use of a cocktail napkin, you can see that your original post on this is not correct
 

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@Wes yeah wonderful, for 5 hours a day. Battery storage will last from 1 to 3 years. Wake up.
 

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I suggest you do your own research with the view of finding the truth. None of this happy stuff with solar, wind and electric cars is market driven. It's a result of regulations. So this thread is dancing around a prohibition on discussing a certain topic. Considering who the OP is, that's real cute.

Please don't reply to this post. I'm sick of this nonsense and people with unrealistic expectations and fears.
I rather pull out my mastercard and buy a ticket on United.
Well these days United is also cheaper. At the time back in the 80's flying could be done near the cost of driving, and you could fly into lots of little places United doesn't go, plus set your own schedule. Plus, hey flying isn't driving. It is something like the reason some people still want to camp instead of checking in at the Holiday Inn or Motel 8.

I think Elon Musk got the whole electric car going and while he took advantage of subsidies it wasn't about regulations. It was about his vision to build a better car. He had the smarts to start at the high priced end while most earlier attempts were starting at the low end and apologizing for short comings. Musk saw with enough money there weren't much in the way of shortcomings and quite a few advantages. Then you look at BMW, Audi and M-B sales, and they have been severely hurt by Tesla. They too I'd say are doing it out of being in a competitive business wanting to get their sales numbers back up. They use advantages in regard to regulations where there are some, but they are doing it for sales.

I'd like to have a model 3 or S. It has nothing do to with anything other than I like the cars. I don't have good enough reason currently to pay that much for a car. Which is why I don't have one. In a few years if we have lots more electrics to choose from, and I can get a used one I probably will have one. What I don't like about them, is they'll eventually kill driving yourself. I like to drive.
 

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@Wes yeah wonderful, for 5 hours a day. Battery storage will last from 1 to 3 years. Wake up.
and... snow load reflecting back the solar rays for much of the Con USA too... Some cities in sunny Alberta Canada attempted massive solar panel farms and they all stopped because it's just not feasible. The same as the massive wind farms too. The idea seems good but in practice it has issues.
 

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I suggest you do your own research with the view of finding the truth. None of this happy stuff with solar, wind and electric cars is market driven. It's a result of regulations.

So is oil. How much blood has been spilled and how trillions of taxpayer money have gone to protecting the world's oil companies? The US feud with Iran literally started because in 1953 we staged a coup on a democratic government on behalf of BP, nee Anglo-Iranian Oil Company.

So is the fact that America is addicted to ugly and unsafe trucks as personal transportation.

The minivan literally exists because teams under Lee Iacocca and Bob Lutz found a loophole in CAFE and NHTSA safety regs that allowed them make a bigger, thirstier, less safe vehicle cheaply.

So don't go talking nonsense about "regulation" to attack things you don't understand.
 

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So don't go talking nonsense about "regulation" to attack things you don't understand.

Oh, I don't understand. Sounds like a personal attack. Mind your manners.
 

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Oh, I don't understand. Sounds like a personal attack. Mind your manners.

Why don't you tell us again "inconvenient" it is to simply plug in one's car when one comes home compared to:

1) driving to a facility that stores toxic liquified dead algae in tanks that are probably leaking said toxic fluid into the groundwater, that one would not otherwise have to drive to
2) possibly waiting in line
3) spending a few minutes pumping said toxic fluid into an on-board storage vessel
4) drive somewhere you might actually want to be

:rolleyes:

You've already made that argument twice.
 

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@jhaider you are having a bad dream, wake up.
 

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If my wife wins the lottery, we'd probably get a newer Hyundai SUV. No excitement, just get me from Point A to Point B.

The car guys here are really with the force.
 

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@Wes yeah wonderful, for 5 hours a day. Battery storage will last from 1 to 3 years. Wake up.

sounds like you don't understand battery storage -- or grid storage

are you sure you don't have some subjectivist type feeling that is emotionally biasing you with respect to solar?
 

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sounds like you don't understand battery storage -- or grid storage

are you sure you don't have some subjectivist type feeling that is emotionally biasing you with respect to solar?

You are the one who doesn't understand. Sorry about your bad dream, time to wake up. The problem with you groupies is no dissent is allowed.
 
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stop hassling people who point out the logical flaws in your claims
 

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What does a good 172 cost these days? When I first got a license I almost purchased a couple. They weren't much more than a good recent used car in those days. What stopped me was the closest airport (which was quite close) had no open slots for keeping aircraft there and a long waiting list.

Six figures for one in decent shape with good avionics. Lots of GA airports around here.
 
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