Welcome Aboard @CortL.What is science since you are referring to it? I like measurements from the forum, that’s why I subscribed but also subjective opinions. All welcome. After all we are free to make our own mind.
Welcome Aboard @CortL.What is science since you are referring to it? I like measurements from the forum, that’s why I subscribed but also subjective opinions. All welcome. After all we are free to make our own mind.
I think there is a setting in the driver software to set maxIn this V2 did smsl change the max output voltage at xlr? In the V1 measurement, it was seen that max output voltage can go as high as 6.8V, what about in V2?
meaning need to set while connecting to windows ?I think there is a setting in the driver software to set max
Hi @WolfX-700 , the number you got on both channels that was close to 4.5V, is it using max volume (40) ? ThanksAmir and I discovered the temperature stability of the SMSL M500 before. After SMSL knew it, they improved the M500.
A few days ago I received this improved unit (already sold).
After the measurement, I was a little excited-so I can't wait to release some quick measurement results.
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In terms of version identification, SMSL does not do well. According to their statement, only one way to confirm HW: 1.3 in the system version to know that you got the V2 version.
In terms of improvement, according to the official statement: THD, IMD, and temperature stability have all been improved.
Quick measurement results:
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Anyone find out if this is still the case for V2 ? ( which I think is NOT)Is it safe to assume that this version still outputs 6.8V on its max setting?
Mine is v2 so max is already 4V though no one has confirm thisI remember with the v1 someone figured out 4 Volrs would be ideal, so a setting of 34. to match most amps. Maybe I am confusing something here.
Yes, I kinda picked that up from what you posted earlier. The initial posts in this thread show 4.45 volts - is that the exact measurement at setting 40? So maybe 38 would be 4 Volts exactly?Mine is v2 so max is already 4V though no one has confirm this
still noone confirmed this right? Last month I bought a unit with hw 1.3 sw 1.7 versions installed. Then they released M500 MKII. my m500 is feeding sp400 (earlier sp200) and as you know both amps can take more than 5V. I think in some thread someone said smsl had confirmed sp400 can be fed up to 10V. Anyway I know it doesn't matter much but I am pretty bummed and found a decent deal on a D1se. If M500 no longer goes up to 6.8 volts I might just upgrade.Hi @WolfX-700 , the number you got on both channels that was close to 4.5V, is it using max volume (40) ? Thanks
My feeling is that to get the older V1 version is the way to go ie making sure the hw version to be less than 1.3, then perhaps you might get the unit that output the max 6.8 volts. This is assuming that none of sw version in the V1 changing the voltage to be less! If SMSL can list out the corresponding m500 versions (hw and sw) and its corresponding max output voltage, that would be great.still noone confirmed this right? Last month I bought a unit with hw 1.3 sw 1.7 versions installed. Then they released M500 MKII. my m500 is feeding sp400 (earlier sp200) and as you know both amps can take more than 5V. I think in some thread someone said smsl had confirmed sp400 can be fed up to 10V. Anyway I know it doesn't matter much but I am pretty bummed and found a decent deal on a D1se. If M500 no longer goes up to 6.8 volts I might just upgrade.
That is what I think too. Somewhere in the way, they changed op amps inside too. I assume it was necessary to solve the heat issue but also reduced the output voltage to 5ish. Not that it is low. But their designs, as I understand, works better with high voltage input.My feeling is that to get the older V1 version is the way to go ie making sure the hw version to be less than 1.3, then perhaps you might get the unit that output the max 6.8 volts. This is assuming that none of sw version in the V1 changing the voltage to be less! If SMSL can list out the corresponding m500 versions (hw and sw) and its corresponding max output voltage, that would be great.
For me, the heat issue is not that important as I only listen to music perhaps an hour or less at a time so I don't think the heat will damage any components.That is what I think too. Somewhere in the way, they changed op amps inside too. I assume it was necessary to solve the heat issue but also reduced the output voltage to 5ish. Not that it is low. But their designs, as I understand, works better with high voltage input.
It was more like performance was changing according to heat and it was not intentional. According to wolf's site, a unit was degrading while other was improving with heat.For me, the heat issue is not that important as I only listen to music perhaps an hour or less at a time so I don't think the heat will damage any components.