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Pavel_47

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Hello,

Can someone aware of amplifier ICs (some examples) used to drive headphones (smartphones/tablets/PC) that normally have an impedance of 16...32 Ohms?

Many IC solutions (advanced codecs, etc) feature class D output stage specified for 4 ... 8 Ohms.

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In a pinch you can place a parallel resistor (say, 20 ohms) across the headphones, if the amp is for some reason unstable at higher impedances.
 
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Well, in this case resistor will just dissipate part of power, that could be used by headphone.
I guess that Samsung, Apple and Co in their smartphones/tablets use solutions that feet generic headphones (i.e. 16 ... 32 Ohms), isn't it.
 

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Well, in this case resistor will just dissipate part of power, that could be used by headphone.
I guess that Samsung, Apple and Co in their smartphones/tablets use solutions that feet generic headphones (i.e. 16 ... 32 Ohms), isn't it.
Most amps are fine driving a higher impedance.
 
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Well...not sure, because no one has yet denied the networking theory that states "impedance matching" issue.
They will driver headphones, sure, but at the cost of reduced sound.
Once more, Samsung and others probably use optimized solution for theirs products.
 

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Well...not sure, because no one has yet denied the networking theory that states "impedance matching" issue.
They will driver headphones, sure, but at the cost of reduced sound.
Once more, Samsung and others probably use optimized solution for theirs products.
Impedance matching? That's not an audio thing.
 

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The only "right" way to drive headphones is from a low impedance, preferably less than 10% of their rated impedance.
 

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The only "right" way to drive headphones is from a low impedance, preferably less than 10% of their rated impedance.
Well, minus the IEMs tuned for 10 ohms, or those headphones optimized for IEC standard 120 ohms, both of which exist. But for all the rest, it's as described.
 

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Well...not sure, because no one has yet denied the networking theory that states "impedance matching" issue.
They will driver headphones, sure, but at the cost of reduced sound.
Once more, Samsung and others probably use optimized solution for theirs products.

I think you misunderstood 'impedance matching' or the one writing the article misunderstands.
A: The 32, 80 and 250ohm DT770 not only differ in impedance but are not the same in frequency response, the 32ohm has different pads (pleather instead of velour).
B: In many studio gear the output impedance is (sometimes much) higher than just a few ohm. In this case it is not a matter of 'impedance matching' but a voltage division issue due to the varying impedance. The effect is 'worse' for lower impedance headphones resulting in boomy elevated bass. The higher the headphone impedance the less the effect. So the 250ohm can be connected to low and high output impedance amplifiers without changing tonality (much). The 32ohm version will sound different from different output impedance amplifiers. The 80ohm is 'in between' both in impedance dependency and sensitivity.

Most headphone outs from phones/tablets just use a low voltage op-amp on the output. Not a class-D output intended for speakers.
Furthermore they usually run on just 3V or sometimes +/-3V or so (using a charge pump for the negative 3V) limiting the output voltage of said devices. Because of this they also can provide a bit more current so are very suited to drive low impedance headphones but are less suited to drive high impedance (less voltage sensitive) headphones to higher SPL resulting in poor sound at higher SPL.

As phones/tablets have very little board space and low power rail voltages they use IC's like: MAX4410DS, MAX97220, TPA6138, TPA6139, TLV320, TS 482, PT2309, SA58635
Not the usual op-amps nor higher power headphone driver ICs.

And yes, you can parallel an 18ohm to a headphone when using a class-D amp (for some silly reason) as a headphone amp.
This won't affect sound quality.

The sound quality (distortion) usually is lowest driving higher impedance headphones. That said, higher impedance headphones, in general, require a bit more voltage (have a lower sensitivity) to play somewhat loud which portable devices cannot provide.
 
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Well...not sure, because no one has yet denied the networking theory that states "impedance matching" issue.
That usually is applied to maximum power transfer theorem where the source and load resistances are equal. That does not apply to audio applications in any way shape or form.
 

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But do with digital audio transport, just not with analog audio. :)

Certainly not for headphones... It would be the day that one would have to look for an amplifier with 32ohm out to drive a 32ohm headphone, a 16ohm output to drive 16ohm headphones and 300ohm out to drive 300ohm headphones.
 
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