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Bookshelf recommendations with no subwoofer.

Chazz6

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Sealed bookshelf speakers don't need to be as far off the rear wall as speakers with a port. A cloth or curtain on the wall behind your head makes a difference, too.

Spendor A1 for example.
 

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In the $2k range, 14ft x 14ft bedroom, listening from 12ft away from the speakers, with no space for a subwoofer, what recommendations do you have?

Subwoofers do not need to be on the floor. Maybe you do have space for a subwoofer without realizing it: we all consider subs to be floor-bound, but they don't HAVE to be.

Just something to maybe think about.
 

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Or an active monitor that fits your budget.
 

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Not bookshelf, but another option:
Revel Concerta2 F35 are 400$ each on crutchfield at the moment.

should be better than most the bookshelf speakers you have listed?
 

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In the $2k range, 14ft x 14ft bedroom, listening from 12ft away from the speakers, with no space for a subwoofer, what recommendations do you have?

Currently using Elac DBR-62’s which are fine, but am itching for an upgrade. Was considering some BMR Monitors, but was a little concerned about Erin’s compression graphs.

Powered by a pair of Outlaw 2220’s.

I would go with your original plan for a pair of BMR Monitors.

The BMR monitors are in a class of their own. I have lots of other bookshelf speakers like the Revel M105, VMPS DiPoles and Canton Vento Ref92 but none of them hold a candle to the full body sound of the BMR Monitor. The BMR monitor offers acoustical playback closer to my Revel F328Be and F228Be Towers than a bookshelf. If you want awesome bass and a speaker that you'll never want to sell get the BMR monitor.

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I would go with your original plan for a pair of BMR Monitors.

The BMR monitors are in a class of their own. I have lots of other bookshelf speakers like the Revel M105, VMPS DiPoles and Canton Vento Ref92 but none of them hold a candle to the full body sound of the BMR Monitor. The BMR monitor offers acoustical playback closer to my Revel F328Be and F228Be Towers than a bookshelf. If you want awesome bass and a speaker that you'll never want to sell get the BMR monitor.

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I'd love to demo those with subs, so that woofer can focus on those mid base and above, even though they may not require subs per se.
 

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I'd love to demo those with subs, so that woofer can focus on those mid base and above, even though they may not require subs per se.
I think they need subs for high volume or hometheater use. They show fairly heavy compression in the bass and treble at higher volumes.

That being said. They are an excellent sounding speaker, and I very much enjoyed my time with them. Probably the most stable off axis imaging I have ever experienced. Closest any stereo speaker has come to not needing a center channel imo.
 

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I think they need subs for high volume or hometheater use. They show fairly heavy compression in the bass and treble at higher volumes.

That being said. They are an excellent sounding speaker, and I very much enjoyed my time with them. Probably the most stable off axis imaging I have ever experienced. Closest any stereo speaker has come to not needing a center channel imo.

It seems Erin confirmed the off axis thing, seemed to find them a bit bumpy in the measurements dept, with compression as toy mention. Add subs and allow them focus on the mid/base and above, would help there I'd think. No HT currently, just 2ch. Interestingly his vid is testing V2, yet they speakers on the site have the newer woofers, so V3? Anyone test with those woofers? If not, they should.
 

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My 2020 BMR Monitors are in my office for stereo use. They are version 2. Never needed a sub at all with them. The bass kick is HUGE and the midrange is strong. Dispersion is wide. I use the RME ADI-2 Loudness control to tweak them just the way I like. They can get louder than I would possibly want or play softly and still sound present and clean. I typically use less than 10W with a Purifi amp to power them. These speakers are amazing. :D
 

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It seems Erin confirmed the off axis thing, seemed to find them a bit bumpy in the measurements dept, with compression as toy mention. Add subs and allow them focus on the mid/base and above, would help there I'd think. No HT currently, just 2ch. Interestingly his vid is testing V2, yet they speakers on the site have the newer woofers, so V3? Anyone test with those woofers? If not, they should.

The second version was as an old run using the original scan speak woofers with an alternative crossover and all drivers midline. It's the ones he designed before taking some time off for his health. The next and latest version was the one Erin tested and labelled v2.
 
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