Call it Evo, X26 Evo
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Gustard X26Pro Review (Balanced High-end DAC)
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Great idea.
No, only stuff that is equally transparent for a fraction of that price.
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I didn't say it was stupid, marketing is not stupidity, I'm saying pro don't mean professional in most cases, that's all. I honestly don't care how the makers name their products. I didn't want to raise a debate about this, my point was about the irony of being surprised and question the validity of having features used by pro included in a product that has Pro in his name.
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It's not the same feature set...have to compare apples to apples
LOL.........
Why would you want a device that measures inferior?
Just for it's PEQ?
Maybe the cheaper Topping D90SE would suit you better.
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I don't think you understand what the measurements actually tell you.
1. Because it has headphones and IEMs outputs.
2. Because correcting one's room response or a headphone tonality with PEQ brings far more returns than possibly inaudible better measurements.
3. Because the ADI-2 DAC has pre-amp mode that keeps SINAD high in all levels, not a simple digital attenuator.
4. Smaller, lighter, cheaper.
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Francis V. is giving [somewhat] objective definition, proper. "Sounds like" sounds like subjective audiophile stuff.
Note also the explanation of the word "amateur" yesterday. (The opposite of "professional.")
( https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dac-and-headphone-amplifier.24341/post-824141 )
However, I think it is like farting against thunder or pissing against the wind.
You know how falsehood "becomes true" after it has been repeated a lot and is accepted by the majority.
This level doesn't bother me, what does is the internet apostrophe psychosis and random use of capitalisation.
...And sometimes the same people with such problems expect me to accept their audiophile nonsense about listening to cables and so on.
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Absolutely, a Kickass feature like PEQ in exchange for a few dBs of SINAD in inaudible territory any day!
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Thanks Amir. This is a novel device that seems priced right for what you get. The discrete performance is impressive.
Personally I would take the better performing Topping D90SE which also has a novel, albeit not discrete architecture. I suppose Topping will be more attractive to people who want the best performance, and this is more 'audiophile.'
As for the 'pro' designation, I agree it has lost most of its meaning, but I don't really have a problem with it on a DAC that has XLR outputs, or better yet, AES in and XLR out. I agree with comments there are better nomenclatures though. I like the Schiit 2, 3, +, 3+, S, etc. I don't think the Topping or Gustard 'pro' nomenclature is terrible though. More 'good not great.' It communicates the message effectively, but many of the constructive comments are still on point.
Personally I would take the better performing Topping D90SE which also has a novel, albeit not discrete architecture. I suppose Topping will be more attractive to people who want the best performance, and this is more 'audiophile.'
As for the 'pro' designation, I agree it has lost most of its meaning, but I don't really have a problem with it on a DAC that has XLR outputs, or better yet, AES in and XLR out. I agree with comments there are better nomenclatures though. I like the Schiit 2, 3, +, 3+, S, etc. I don't think the Topping or Gustard 'pro' nomenclature is terrible though. More 'good not great.' It communicates the message effectively, but many of the constructive comments are still on point.
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Yes, understood, I agree...and btw I can also talk about the original or "proper" meaning of the word "quality."
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Sure, understood about “quality”—i.e., a characteristic of an object.
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This is an example of a product that takes audiophile marketing to the extreme. Some audiophiles believe they need features used in professional environments such as external clocking, so Gustard brings these features into a DAC that will never be used by any professional, and then names the DAC “Pro” knowing full well this is not a professional product, but also knowing the name and features perceived as professional will appeal to some non-professional audiophiles. It makes the head spIn.
Of course, this is just another day at the office in the audio(phile) industry.
Of course, this is just another day at the office in the audio(phile) industry.
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I am a Professional Engineer. I thought these were special versions for special people like me.
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$1500 with a IIS-LVDS connector and no trigger output.
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