What you need to know about the virus in China "2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)"

[Veri]

I came across this tip sheet on CNN yesterday that freaked me out a bit:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/202...sheets/coronavirus-proof-your-home/index.html

It's talking about setting up a disinfecting station outside home and disinfecting packaged food.

Anybody got pointers on how to do that? Specially when I cant find any disinfectant to purchase?

We've been ordering groceries and delivery online. It would really suck to get infected from delivered food and packages while following all shelter guidelines.

Odd. I thought 'virus' on packages was supposed to be negligible. Of course, you receive things, any thing, wash your hands. Standard rules apply.

 

[maty]

Corona19TrackerES - Seguimiento de la evolución de la crisis sanitaria del COVID_19 en España
https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/211b8899-39a5-48be-aa23-f4eccd1041b1/page/D1TKB

Note in the columns below that for those > 80 years old ... NO ICU DATA ("Requieren UCI")

 

[raif71]

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Well, if you're near but unable to smell, that is something to worry about as some covid-19 infected people cannot smell and taste

 

[maty]

Preliminary report that has not been peer-reviewed.

Evolutionary origins of the SARS-CoV-2 sarbecovirus lineage responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.015008v1

[ ...Despite intensified characterization of sarbecoviruses since SARS, the lineage giving rise to SARS-CoV-2 has been circulating unnoticed for decades in bats and been transmitted to other hosts such as pangolins. The occurrence of a third significant coronavirus emergence in 17 years together with the high prevalence and virus diversity in bats implies that these viruses are likely to cross species boundaries again. ]

 

[MediumRare]

Since most of these viruses seem to come from bats(?), can someone tell me the reason for bats being in proximity of humans?

I will assume that is a serious question. Bats and humans live together everywhere on Earth. https://scx2.b-cdn.net/gfx/news/hires/2016/568aa336b1ad6.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/48/132773388_5b90fe66d0_b.jpg

 

[maty]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rockets-563-patients-die-12492374/

[ Another 563 people have died after contracting coronavirus, taking the UK death toll to 2,352. Today’s jump in deaths is the biggest daily increase since the outbreak began, following another massive rise of 381 deaths yesterday... ]

180 -> 381 -> 563 deaths by day in only two days!!!

 

[MediumRare]

” Anders Bjorkman, a leading epidemiologist who spent years at the forefront of malaria research, challenges the model used by researchers at Imperial College London, which estimated that about 1 per cent of those who contracted the virus would die. He argues that the estimate is misleading as it does not include those with the virus who exhibit no symptoms.

“They say there’s 1 per cent mortality. That’s not true. They completely discard the asymptomatics,” he said. “In all these groups there are some who don’t have symptoms and aren’t reported. In Sweden the average age of all reported corona cases is 56 years roughly. The average age of the population is 40 … and I believe that all age groups have been more or less equally exposed. Among the younger population, those under 40, there are so many non-symptomatics.”

The death rate in Sweden, he said, was likely to be closer to 0.1 per cent than 1 per cent. Hundreds, rather than tens of thousands, would die before herd immunity was achieved.

The public health agency said that in tests of about 5000 people who had returned to Sweden from visits to Italy, the few hundred that were positive all exhibited mild symptoms — implying that there could be a large number of people in Sweden who are asymptomatic — with mild or no symptoms — who have not sought medical treatment.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/wo...y/news-story/ad3f99bac495e72475e0cd1cfd6663aa

What a shameful fantasy. Sweden already has 180 deaths, growing 23% in one day. The Netherlands (another conveniently wealthy, white, "rational" country with excellent health care) already has 68 deaths/m, with no sign of an inflection point. So, it's hard to see anything less than 1,000 to 2,000 dead in Sweden.

 

[MediumRare]

I find the https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections site that Dr. Bix referred to in the president's press conference last night fascinating. For example, based on data, it's predicting less than 7,000 deaths for Florida, even without a statewide lockdown, despite the considerably older population than average in the state and the huge gatherings we saw during spring break. I wonder what factors make Florida less susceptible to this?

That would be 329/m, the highest fatality rate in the world. Why does that seem low to you? (equates to 108,000 in the US).

 

[maty]

Virological assessment of hospitalized patients with COVID-2019
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2196-x

 

[maty]

Bill Gates: Here’s how to make up for lost time on covid-19
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...5c3cf2-738c-11ea-85cb-8670579b863d_story.html

 

[maty]

First coronavirus case reported from Mumbai's Dharavi [India] slum
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ted-from-dharavi-in-mumbai-1662265-2020-04-01

[ Mumbai's Dharavi, known as Asia's largest slum area, has reported its first case of the novel coronavirus... ]

 

[Deleted member 65]

What a shameful fantasy. Sweden already has 180 deaths, growing 23% in one day. The Netherlands (another conveniently wealthy, white, "rational" country with excellent health care) already has 68 deaths/m, with no sign of an inflection point. So, it's hard to see anything less than 1,000 to 2,000 dead in Sweden.

Growth is due to discovered older cases. Still on planned curve, hospitals strained but still coping.

 

[maty]

Confinamiento de lujo en los Hamptons: “Tengo 200.000 dólares. Y quiero dormir allí esta noche”
[Spanish] https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03...-dolares-y-quiero-dormir-alli-esta-noche.html

Luxury confinement in the Hamptons: "I have $200,000. And I want to sleep there tonight."
https://www.translatetheweb.com/?re...-dolares-y-quiero-dormir-alli-esta-noche.html

 

[Laserjock]

I will assume that is a serious question. Bats and humans live together everywhere on Earth. https://scx2.b-cdn.net/gfx/news/hires/2016/568aa336b1ad6.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/48/132773388_5b90fe66d0_b.jpg

Maybe I should have been more specific, as in “close” proximity and or eating them?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...wn-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/

 

[Willem]

The Dutch Public Health Institute says the re-infection rate has been dropping for the last two weeks, and is now probably below 1. No additional measures are necessary, but the current ones have to be and have been extended.

 

[Willem]

Perhaps it is good to have some historical perspective. So see here for two dossiers compiled by the leading international journals in the field of economic history:
https://ehsthelongrun.net/2020/03/2...health-research-from-economic-history-part-a/
https://ehsthelongrun.net/2020/03/3...health-research-from-economic-history-part-b/

 

[maty]

１住所当たり２枚の布マスクを配布の方針 安倍首相
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200401/k10012362911000.html

Abe's policy of distributing two cloth masks per address Prime Minister Abe
April 1, 2020 20:23

[ Due to the shortage of masks due to the spread of the new coronavirus, Prime Minister Abe has a policy of distributing two cloth masks per address to all households nationwide at the government's headquarters. Revealed.

In this report, Prime Minister Abe commented on the domestic infection situation, stating, "The number of newly infected people is rapidly increasing, especially in urban areas. Although the pace of expansion is slow, in some areas the healthcare delivery system is already tightening. "

He stated that masks that continue to run out of stock will be extremely effective in responding to the rapidly expanding demand for masks, since cloth masks can be reused by washing with detergent.

Based on that, he clarified its policy of distributing two cloth masks per address using the Japan Post system to all households nationwide... ]

 

[Martin]

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Looks like the entire world needs to take a look at what they’re doing in South Korea.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...the-outbreak-without-shutting-everything-down

Martin

 

[maty]

In South Korea they did a simulation two weeks before. What they learned then they quickly applied. The strategy only works if you act fast in the beginning. Once it has spread it is very complicated. In addition, they immediately did many daily tests.

Without 'tons' of tests and being late only confinement fits to stop the first hit.

 

[BDWoody]

That would be 329/m, the highest fatality rate in the world. Why does that seem low to you? (equates to 108,000 in the US).

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

I think the next couple weeks will see the US move up this list... Hopefully NY is the only major city that goes through what they're going through.

Edit: keep it up (DOWN!) @Xulonn !