New mysterious Genelec monitors

[dedobot]

A Titanium enclosure of course

Titanium is very light and hard material. I'd go with gold/lead coated in super-duper polimer

 

[dedobot]

In white they're actually not that badView attachment 287018

Put a fancy grills and I can swallowed them !

 

[Pearljam5000]

Would look better if they painted the drivers too

They never paint them

 

[juliangst]

Don't match your Genelecs to your room aesthetic. Match your room aesthetics to your genelecs. Concrete walls look better than white walls anyways.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Titanium is very light and hard material. I'd go with gold/lead coated in super-duper polimer

It isn’t as light as ally and isn’t that hard, quite easy to scratch and fairly expensive.

It has about the same specific stiffness as steel (ie about half as dense and half as stiff). So does aluminium, but in this case a third the density and a third the stiffness.

IME unless you need strength at elevated temperatures an aluminium alloy is pretty well always a better cost/performance choice than titanium.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Titanium is old news
Zirconium is the real deal

 

[srrxr71]

Putting aside the charts, let’s dissect the differences and sum them up:

8381 boasts a compression tweetr
The quad mids enhances direcativity and boosts low-mid spl
15” woofer vs 14” woofer in the W371
2 x 15” woofers for active bass management vs 12” woofer

Seems the 8381 would run circles around the combo.
(And it ditches the slit design which I personally dislike)

All on paper of course

There is a slit in the back.

 

[srrxr71]

Personally, I love them already - but I'm a sucker for function dictating form.

For those less purist than me though, I wonder how hard a simple stocking stretch grille would be to do?

My old Neat Ultimatums had this, looked great and was acoustically inert.

That’s what I would do. Stocking or other sheer material.

 

[RobL]

They make a grill for the 1236A…maybe there’s going to be something for these as well?

 

[HairyEars]

There is a slit in the back.

It's a reflex bass port, which is common on most Genelecs.

The slit design for the race track drives has been ditched along with the drives.

 

[HairyEars]

They make a grill for the 1236A…maybe there’s going to be something for these as well?

No provisions on the 8381 for a grill.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Why do they use 2 types of woofers?

 

[fpitas]

Generally woofers with break-up rings are intended for wide band use into the midrange.

 

[tuga]

Why do they use 2 types of woofers?View attachment 287094View attachment 287095

Difficult to say just by eye-balling it, perhaps higher sensitivity (bottom woofer)?

 

[RobL]

No provisions on the 8381 for a grill.

No obvious provisions…it wouldn’t be difficult to envision a magnetically mounted grill. Pure speculation of course

 

[badspeakerdesigner]

If a speaker design decision contributes to an improvement that is measurable but not audible then it's 'overkill' in my opinion.

Magico always claims that their fully aluminium cabinets have a lot less vibrations than MDF. This might indeed be true but it doesn't mean that a normal thick MDF cabinets has audible vibrations/ distortion from the cabinet in the first place.
This is also the case with Kefs R series and Reference series which uses a aluminium front baffle. Might be better in theory but they pretty much measure the same.

After a specific price point you basically only pay for overengineering, build quality and design.

C-notes are 1/2" mdf and don't have cabinet issues. I generally think people go a little overboard on cabinet dampening.

 

[TurtlePaul]

Why do they use 2 types of woofers?

The larger dust cap on the side woofers allow for more excursion, which is more important for the sides as they handle the lowest frequencies.

The ribs on the side woofers add mass which reduces the Fs, they likely make it stiffer against warping at high pressures at low frequency but would the cone more likely to deform at higher frequencies.

It seems like the side woofers are optimized for low frequency but at the cost of not being able to be a midrange. This makes sense because they are crossed at 50 hz.

 

[srrxr71]

It's a reflex bass port, which is common on most Genelecs.

The slit design for the race track drives has been ditched along with the drives.

Oh yeah I see. But I would argue in the 8351/w371 not much output comes out of that driver. But yes some still does especially if you manually limit the crossover to 150Hz as I have done.

 

[Pearljam5000]

If they ditched the oval drivers of the Ones
And this is one of the Ones
Does it mean that they felt they're compromised in any way vs a regular round driver for them to switch back to an "old" design ?

 

[Axo1989]

If they ditched the oval drivers of the Ones
And this is one of the Ones
Does it mean that they felt they're compromised in any way vs a regular round driver for them to switch back to an "old" design ?

Oval or racetrack drivers are more compact (compared to piston area) than circular drivers. The Ones are compact, this speaker (the Main One as they call it) isn't trying to be.