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Review and Measurements of New Topping D50s DAC

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There are better choices now, if you find the D50S on a discount then sure. However there is the EX5 and the E50.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check them out.Seems I keep upping the ante. I've been looking at the D90SE with maybe adding the PRE90 for added gain. But I'm not sure if it's overkill for my B&K ST1400 Series II power amp.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check them out.Seems I keep upping the ante. I've been looking at the D90SE with maybe adding the PRE90 for added gain. But I'm not sure if it's overkill for my B&K ST1400 Series II power amp.
Personally I think the D90 is overkill for everything. There are SOTA products available for much less.
A90D is also "overkill" but I can see some people wanting it for very current hungry planar headphones.
Otherwise you could just get away with a E50 that has more features and better performance or an L30 or even D30 Pro.
 

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Personally I think the D90 is overkill for everything. There are SOTA products available for much less.
A90D is also "overkill" but I can see some people wanting it for very current hungry planar headphones.
Otherwise you could just get away with a E50 that has more features and better performance or an L30 or even D30 Pro.
I just looked at the ASR E50 review. As for bench testing, it seems on par with the D90. Part of my attraction to the the D90SE is the implementation and SQ. I will check out some the options you suggested, thanks for your input.
 

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I just looked at the ASR E50 review. As for bench testing, it seems on par with the D90. Part of my attraction to the the D90SE is the implementation and SQ. I will check out some the options you suggested, thanks for your input.
E50 is indeed very close to the D90 just without the fancy enclosure, screen and internal psu.
 

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I'm currently running a D50S from tidal and PC through an A50S then out to headphones. What I'd like to do is connect a cd player to the D50S then broadcast to bluetooth speakers. Is this possible? I also connected my iphone via bluetooth and listened with headphones, but I'm unable to broadcast phone-->D50S-->bluetooth speakers. Clearly I don't have a complete understanding of how this works. Advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I'm currently running a D50S from tidal and PC through an A50S then out to headphones. What I'd like to do is connect a cd player to the D50S then broadcast to bluetooth speakers. Is this possible? I also connected my iphone via bluetooth and listened with headphones, but I'm unable to broadcast phone-->D50S-->bluetooth speakers. Clearly I don't have a complete understanding of how this works. Advice would be greatly appreciated.
Find a Bluetooth transmitter and connect RCA output of A50S to the RCA input of the Bluetooth transmitter.
 

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What I'd like to do is connect a cd player to the D50S then broadcast to bluetooth speakers.
If we overlook the fact that this represents an over-complicated digital-to-analogue-to-digital configuration, the D50s is the wrong device - it's a bluetooth receiver. Bluetooth speakers also include a bluetooth receiver - so what you need is a bluetooth transmitter (as Laserjock mentioned) - and since your source device (CD player) is digital, go one step better and get a bluetooth transmitter with coaxial s/pdif input -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265056953903

I also connected my iphone via bluetooth and listened with headphones, but I'm unable to broadcast phone-->D50S-->bluetooth speakers.
Pair the phone directly to the bluetooth speakers.
 

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If we overlook the fact that this represents an over-complicated digital-to-analogue-to-digital configuration, the D50s is the wrong device - it's a bluetooth receiver. Bluetooth speakers also include a bluetooth receiver - so what you need is a bluetooth transmitter (as Laserjock mentioned) - and since your source device (CD player) is digital, go one step better and get a bluetooth transmitter with coaxial s/pdif input -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265056953903


Pair the phone directly to the bluetooth speakers.
Thanks for the reply. Pairing the phone to bluetooth speakers is the easy part. Now that I fully understand the capabilities of the D50S thanks to you both, I'm excited for the next step; getting a Shanling EC3 and playing CD's that have collected dust for decades.
 

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Thanks for the reply. Pairing the phone to bluetooth speakers is the easy part. Now that I fully understand the capabilities of the D50S thanks to you both, I'm excited for the next step; getting a Shanling EC3 and playing CD's that have collected dust for decades.
The Shanling has Bluetooth transmitter built in and could just use it independently to your Bluetooth speakers.

Are your speakers in a different area?
 

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Are your speakers in a different area?
Sensible question. Direwall, you have a good quality CD player (and a good quality DAC) so the connection to speakers probably deserves to be wired.
What is the brand/model of your speakers?
 

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I'm currently running a D50S from tidal and PC through an A50S then out to headphones. What I'd like to do is connect a cd player to the D50S then broadcast to bluetooth speakers. Is this possible? I also connected my iphone via bluetooth and listened with headphones, but I'm unable to broadcast phone-->D50S-->bluetooth speakers. Clearly I don't have a complete understanding of how this works. Advice would be greatly appreciated.
There is no point in transmitting to Bluetooth and putting it through a DAC first. Because BT is going to re-encode the audio again which is more lossy and then decode it in the speaker and use the speakers actual internal DAC for BT. Defeating the entire purpose of the whole setup. Considering that not even LDAC can manage a SINAD that is constantly over 90; BT audio is completely inferior and has no reason to be used with HiFi.
 

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The Shanling has Bluetooth transmitter built in and could just use it independently to your Bluetooth speakers.

Are your speakers in a different area?

The Shanling has Bluetooth transmitter built in and could just use it independently to your Bluetooth speakers.

Are your speakers in a different area?
The party has just begun. I've been using head-fi equipment exclusively for a while and now want to slowly expand. I tested the D50S on a cheap, bluetooth desktop speaker just to find out if it would broadcast.

At this point, I'm exploring the possibilities of integration as I build out. Everything is in the office at the moment and space is at a premium. The Shanling EC3 is an appealing option due to its size and attractiveness. I'm not even sure I want speakers in this space.

Ultimately, I plan on getting a hi-fi/mid-fi system in the living room, possibly wireless with the Kef LS50 and perhaps a quality all in one CD player/streamer. If I'm able to broadcast to the living room from the office, that would be a bonus.
 
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Sensible question. Direwall, you have a good quality CD player (and a good quality DAC) so the connection to speakers probably deserves to be wired.
What is the brand/model of your speakers?
See above. I do have a wired pair of Audioengine speakers laying around that I might hook up in the office, but space is tight.
 

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I plan on getting a hi-fi/mid-fi system in the living room, possibly wireless with the Kef LS50
In that case you won't need to buy a streamer, because the LS50 Wireless has a streamer built-in, and a very fully-featured unit at that. You would be able to avoid bluetooth, since the LS50 Wireless has multiple forms of wifi connectivity. If your streaming provider is Spotify, for example, the LS50 offers Spotify's native streaming method; Spotify-Connect. Or you can also use AirPlay (good for iPhone users) or Chromecast (good for Android users).
 
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